First Trans Pride in London this weekend

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49447918

Quoting Get the L Out
But the actual issues that mean there are a serious clash of rights is not being represented clearly or fairly by the Beeb.
It’s not about feminists just being meanies FFS.
Also the organisers of this Pride/protest have a raised fist on their promo for their event .

The tweet about terf hanging upthread seems to have disappeared, but here is another:
twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1173182746128257026

What has been tweeted there though isn't true is it? There wasn't a 'hanging a TERF' ceremony. It was someone making a joke about hanging women and using a photo from elsewhere (as far as I understand anyway).

Which is still fucked up and still shows these people for what they are, but I think people need to ensure that it's all kept factual, otherwise its just used to discredit what we are saying.

Oh for Gods sake.

The only thing anyone's complained about re that tweet is how sick a fuck you have to be to joke about hanging women and find a picture to illustrate it.

Males joking about hanging women who say no to them, and your main concern is that women may be getting cross about it not nicely and carefully enough for anyone to deign to listen to them.

No, it says in the tweet that 'The first Trans Pride involved ceremonies depicting the hanging of women'. This, as far as I understand, is not true. There were no such ceremonies.

We don't need to lie or embellish in order to get our point across, we already have more than enough ammunition.

The person who made up the original tweet is indeed a sick fuck.

Ah apologies. Id only seen the actual tweet 'joke', not that one.

Although those who should be rushing to prevent having a community discredited is the trans community. I'm sure we'll see dozens of TRA tweets emphatically distancing themselves from this tweeter and stating that the trans community vehemently disagree with violence, threats and 'jokes' about murdering women regardless of those women's beliefs, and this is unacceptable and damaging to trans people.

They'd be absolutely right. I'll wait with bated breath for those tweets to appear.

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Oppressor class therefore latches onto the language of "rights" as an effective mechanism for making unreasonable demands.^

That about sums it up.

So it was a 'joke'? Hilarious.
This hardly makes it better.
Saw Ani from Speak up 4 Women NZ got a similarly 'funny' joke sent to her, among other rib ticklers.

The BBC articles about this event said it was to demand trans people’s ‘rights’ to a whole list of things like healthcare and housing etc. Which in the UK we have allocated us by priority and individualised professional assessment of need (if the state is providing it).
So presumably the campaign demand must be for trans people, as a group, to be put at the front of the queue for public services? But why is that merited? based on what?

Some of the demand for ‘rights’ also seems to be about demanding unquestioning acceptance and personal validation. Not things that any of us can demand from other people by ‘right’. Again what is this merited on?

I can't help but think that if they're so concerned about the right to healthcare and housing, maybe they should stop blaming women for the lack of access, and instead focus their agitation towards the people dismantling social housing and the NHS.

I'm waiting for all the mass reports of masked women stalking the march, issuing threats, shouting and herring over speeches, following participants, threatening people and issuing malicious threats of violence/death/bombs etc.

Come on all you lurking trans activists - this is your moment to shine! Show the world how we nasty women behave!

Stiiiiillll waiting.

Think I'll be here a while.

This diary doesn't have an entry for "twelfth of never".

So gay pride has for years now been all about trans, but now they need their own pride, too? Does that mean gay pride can next year be about homosexuality or does that also still need to be about them?

Tsk. Everything needs to be about them.

Rose of Dawn has got the most horrific screeching audio of some woman. Painful.

It must be kind of awkward for TRA strategising that T*RFS are apparently at the same time: a few nasty ‘feminists’ who don’t represent anyone else especially feminists and also.. a massive threatening horde thats big and scary and anti-democratic enough to want to threaten a gathering of male-bodied people from meeting up. Which is it?

So presumably the campaign demand must be for trans people, as a group, to be put at the front of the queue for public services? But why is that merited? based on what?

Is it that or have our TRAs just not got any ideas of their own so they're cribbing policy from their American brethren?

It must be kind of awkward for TRA strategising that TRFS are apparently at the same time: a few nasty ‘feminists’ who don’t represent anyone else especially feminists hmm and also.. a massive threatening horde thats big and scary and anti-democratic enough to want to threaten a gathering of male-bodied people from meeting up.*

Ha. Yes. Also, terfs are literally just a handful of people online with multiple accounts who spend all day and all night sockpuppeting to make it look like there are more terfs than they are. But this handful of people who live online doing this, are definitely scary enough to warrant 30 pages of 'what to do if these demons appear?!?!?!!' plans, when there is going to be a large meeting of mainly male bodied people.

Mind, you would think the 'nah, theres only a hundred or so in the country' lot would click on, when they also brag about having 50k terfs on their blocklists. Do they really convince themselves that each of the few hundred terfs have 500+ accounts?! Its insane really. Mind, a lot of stuff to do with this ideology is.

Step one - Salt circle, except replace the salt with glitter

Step two - Incense

Step three - The ceremonial declaring of the identity, followed by passionate speaches about biological sex being a social construct

Step four - Wait for demons to appear

Step five - Wait some more

Step six - Still no demons! Try to goad them into turning up by sending them die in a fire messages on Twitter

Step seven - Report them to the police for not responding

Step eight - Starting to get hungry and cold now, find token transman and accuse them of transmisogyny for not having gone for coffee and snacks yet

Step nine - Oh look look there's an older woman with short hair in the distance, have the demons arrived? Everyone stand up, placards at the ready, and start screaming at her about her bigoted aversion to ladypenis

Step ten - She looks confused and is walking away. Is she allowed to do that? Call police again to point out that not sticking around to be shouted at by randoms is a hate crime

Step eleven - Wait is the march over? The demons must have attacked at a different point on the route.

Step twelve - No one saw them? Well then they must have been in disguise. Begin accusing each other of being secret TERFs. Call the police again to report anyone who gets bored and tries to go home for not taking transphobia seriously enough.

Step four -

Note - there is no extra step four. But maybe there should have been - contributions welcome.