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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dorothy Perkins

107 replies

MsMcWibble · 09/09/2019 20:25

It seems that a transwoman was asked to leave the women's changing room.
Now it has emerged that this person has a 'comedy act; where they talk about being a schoolgirl and playing with themselves.
Please support the DP worker - who I believe has been suspended.
I'm having computer problems but hopefully someone can link to the twitter thread.

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MargueritaBlue · 11/09/2019 09:13

I have had a deletion on the first page. Goodness knows what for. I think it was a post where I said I didn't find any of Darcie's act funny but qualified that by adding that I don't find any stand- up funny and mentioned that for example that I don't think Hannah Gadsby is funny either.

I am sure I did not misgender Darcie because , other than JY , I never do.

Datun · 11/09/2019 09:15

SunsetBeetch

That twitter feed. It's just embarrassing.

It is a very difficult situation to deal with, and that's in good part why women's boundaries are being eroded so successfully. Women are socialised not to upset people, it's embarrassing for everyone when an obvious male has to be told they shouldn't be using a woman's space, and the majority of women would probably rather have other women quietly and angrily leave than deal with an obviously dodgy male kicking off at them. Men having tantrums is a scary experience and many women know well the risks of ending up being thumped by one.

This sums it up. ^

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 11/09/2019 09:31

Darcie strikes me as an individual with a lot of time on their hands to think about themselves.

Perhaps getting out a bit more might help - they've just had a lovely hundred quid windfall, so, they could take a wee trip to DPs for a new frock. That's nice. And now that there's precedent, they could get changed in the single sex space and feel all validated. How cheering for them.

NotTonightJosepheen · 11/09/2019 09:36

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donquixotedelamancha · 11/09/2019 10:39

I have had a deletion on the first page. Goodness knows what for...I am sure I did not misgender Darcie because , other than JY , I never do.

Marguerita IIRC you quoted the preceding post, also deleted. Did you quote the bit referring to her as an abuser? I don't think it can have been your post which was an issue.

Either that or one of the mods is an aspiring stand up comic and they took offence at your dislike for that particular art form :-)

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/09/2019 11:52

Who 'her'?

Lumene · 11/09/2019 13:08

Thank you Dorothy Perkins for showing some sense and safeguarding

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/09/2019 14:25

How’s that then? Giving in to tantrums?

steeples · 11/09/2019 14:55

I don't really see any links to back up the story regarding my favorite store DP
most of the links posted are removed and DP have not issued any statements

Gingerkittykat · 11/09/2019 15:13

Prick news

We need deradicalised, and have also been described as being Nazi like!

“I just don’t want to partake in their argument because you can’t rationalise with fanatics. They need de-radicalisation. It’s really bothered me,” she said.

steeples · 11/09/2019 15:18

@Gingerkittykat I never heard of a news site with that name so its probably a fake news website or harmful so I have reported it to MN

NotTonightJosepheen · 11/09/2019 15:25

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steeples · 11/09/2019 15:31

@NotTonightJosepheen Ginger called the news site something else, something vile so I reported it

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steeples · 11/09/2019 15:37

@NotTonightJosepheen so you are saying that is male-centered given that lesbians are featured on such news site? if so I find that funny because I didn't know lesbians were male-centered or am I missing something? I am a bit dyslexic so please forgive me if I come across as ignorant

Michelleoftheresistance · 11/09/2019 15:40

It's widely described as Prick News by many LGB people, exactly because it is so male centred that it only supports and validates lesbians who accept the moral and political duty to include people with penises in their sex lives, and tries to redefine lesbian as homogenderal rather than homosexual. It actively speaks out against women defending their right to homosexuality.

Are you aware of the cotton ceiling and the long history of this particular newspaper's homophobia?

steeples · 11/09/2019 15:40

I think its good that she got £100 free voucher compensation and a lot of support on her latest twitter posts

Michelleoftheresistance · 11/09/2019 15:42

Ah. Got it.

steeples · 11/09/2019 15:42

@Michelleoftheresistance no I am not I am a trans woman who had had surgery but I can't say in the 10 years I have been using woman's changing rooms and bathrooms I have never had any issues but If I did I would kick up such a such as seek compensation or damages because there are laws to protect us from such discrimination and harassment

Michelleoftheresistance · 11/09/2019 15:47

There are laws to protect women and girls from discrimination and harassment too.

This individual's openly available online history demonstrates interest in being around women and girls in a state of undress that is fetishistic. Women and girls are not props to be used in this way. This is one of the reasons women are becoming increasingly determined to protect single sex spaces and resist the situation of any male with any agenda being able to identify into their spaces to use them in this way.

You might want to look up the cotton ceiling and how the TRA political lobby and that newspaper in particular treats lesbians and the discrimination and harassment against women that this entails.

This might inform you a bit better about why women are angry and resistant to male born people in their spaces rather than the assumption they're all a bit mean and daft.

LangCleg · 11/09/2019 15:52

If I did I would kick up such a such as seek compensation or damages because there are laws to protect us from such discrimination and harassment

Why do you think "surgery" gives you a legal right to women's spaces?

Gingerkittykat · 11/09/2019 16:00

Pink News

We need deradicalised, and have also been described as being Nazi like!

“I just don’t want to partake in their argument because you can’t rationalise with fanatics. They need de-radicalisation. It’s really bothered me,” she said.

Post repeated with the reference to male genitalia removed in case it is taken down by admin.

The front page has 28 stories and 1 direct positive story about lesbians, the only other lesbian featured is Martina Navratilova who apparently changed her position and said trans women should be included in women's sport at all levels (is that accurate?) and 11 covering trans issues. It is clear who they want to represent.

Out for a few hours, happy to talk more when I get back.

steeples · 11/09/2019 16:03

@LangCleg No comment