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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dorothy Perkins

107 replies

MsMcWibble · 09/09/2019 20:25

It seems that a transwoman was asked to leave the women's changing room.
Now it has emerged that this person has a 'comedy act; where they talk about being a schoolgirl and playing with themselves.
Please support the DP worker - who I believe has been suspended.
I'm having computer problems but hopefully someone can link to the twitter thread.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 14:44

Why is misgendering a thing but missexing isn't?

It's a shed load easier to pronounce someone's sex (despite what some people are telling midwives and zookeepers these days) than gender - especially when some folx change their genderfeelz depending on the day/weather/whim.

Silly, really, innit?

Michelleoftheresistance · 10/09/2019 15:21

I see I got deleted for truthing.

This person is entitled to view themselves however they like and name themselves as they like. I'm equally entitled not to indulge this belief, particularly when according to their Twitter feed and videos, their interest in getting into women's spaces appears connected with motivations I don't think women should be forced to enable them in.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 15:23

I don't know what the hell other people are thinking. I rarely know what the hell is going on in my own imagination.

Michelleoftheresistance · 10/09/2019 15:28

I can usually manage to jump the hoops of not actually lying while still not actively inviting punishment for heresy, but sometimes the behaviour of an individual is so far over the line and so insulting to women that I'm not willing to pretend even that much. The language being demanded hides and enables an anti woman agenda. I am not willing to collude in my own oppression.

picklemepopcorn · 10/09/2019 15:56

I didn't like that video. It was funny in places, but it's a very harsh humour based around exploiting vulnerability- sex with animals, the 12 yr old cousin, puncture/punch her etc.

Also, again the performance of 'woman' as slightly ditzi and nervy.

It's the contrast between that and the underlying masculine aggression/cruelty which brings the humour.

VictoriaSpongeAndTea · 10/09/2019 15:58

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MargueritaBlue · 10/09/2019 16:04

I didn't like that video. It was funny in places, but it's a very harsh humour based around exploiting vulnerability- sex with animals, the 12 yr old cousin, puncture/punch her etc

I agree. "Harsh" is a good way to describe it.

I didn't think it was very ladylike. Now before you all start shouting at me that you're not ladies let me explain. Describing the humour as harsh puts it well.

I don't think the joke about the 12 year old or bestiality or shitting in her hand were jokes a woman would make.

I saw another one which involved ejaculate as the punch line.

I'm not saying this because I think women should be fragrant and ladylike but I don't think shit and ejaculate and bestiality are things women find funny. Not because we are squeamish but because they aren't funny.

HairyPotter · 10/09/2019 16:05

So Dorothy Perkins have not only apologised, they’ve compensated this person to the tune of £100 and grovelling stated it won’t happen again. Angry

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VictoriaSpongeAndTea · 10/09/2019 16:05

Arcadia brands for anyone wishing to avoid them www.arcadiagroup.co.uk/brands

TirisfalPumpkin · 10/09/2019 16:24

Yeah, it’s ugly, punch-down humour. I did laugh a bit but felt pretty repulsed by it in general.

Will be giving DP a miss; I cannot abide companies who put (often junior, female) members of staff in this position then throw them under the bus. Their ops manager should have got behind the employee who made the right call.

With Arcadia Group closing 23 stores this year due to challenging retail conditions, they may want to consider who their core sales demographic is.

BeMoreMagdalen · 10/09/2019 16:36

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 17:02

So they know that this is a male bodied person, who may be transdoodah or a character actor, and who makes jokes about paedophilia and bestiality - and gets their jolllies around schoolgirls and ladies changing room. And they get £100 for hurty feelings?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 17:06

Josie should be ashamed of themselves. Throw women under a bus why don’t you? Anyone who knows this person deffo know which side she (I assume but who the hell knows these days).

Simple maths - keep a very few people happy ( who more than likely don’t shop there anyway) or loss off womankind, who do shop there. Oh that’s a toughie isn’t it Josie?

SunsetBeetch · 10/09/2019 17:30

Grrrrrr! Definitely getting boycotted by me in future. Way to run an already struggling women's clothes shop

Michelleoftheresistance · 10/09/2019 17:34

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scotsheather · 10/09/2019 17:35

My post was sarcastic in case anyone is wondering what I said. Its obviously NOT the full story, just one side and now hidden the page as can't take the heat.

BuckingFrolics · 10/09/2019 17:50

Link to twitter account has been taken down

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 17:54

Self PR gone wild huh?

funkstar525 · 10/09/2019 18:00

I am compiling a draft letter to DP and Josie Green regarding this. I feel they should compensate every women made to feel uncomfortable in the presence of a man. And to snure they are aware of the EA 2010. What an utter shit show!

Sunkisses · 11/09/2019 02:23

Argh, this thread (and the Dorothy Perkins response) has given me the rage. If they decide to prioritise the sexual kinks of a male (who has already admitted they like to use women's changing rooms for sexual thrills) over the safety and dignity then they have lost my custom too. I am a mum of two daughters. I have two sisters and four nieces too. Will be spreading the word that Dorothy Perkins is no longer safe for women and girls and will be writing to them

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/09/2019 06:53

Who exactly made the decision to humour diddums? The speed would indicate it was some dingbat acting on their own ‘initiative’ haha.

SunsetBeetch · 11/09/2019 07:08

"Terfs! Bigots! Racists! Homophobes!"

How very predictable.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/09/2019 07:48

Bwahahahahaha!

You’re all just Crypto fascists! (Red dwarf) 😭 😭 😭 boo boo I’m very very special don’t you know.

Someone has mommy/daddy issues.

BeMoreMagdalen · 11/09/2019 09:00

I'm laughing at the deletion I've had - I can only imagine it was the use of 'male bodied' because the only other thing I said was that Dorothy Perkins was rather frumpy when I visited yesterday. So maybe 'male bodied' is a banned term now? Or have we got new guidelines that say we can't make generalizations on the frumpiness of a whole clothing shop?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/09/2019 09:10

Man body. Its ‘man body’. Can’t argue with biology or genetic-a surely.