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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Times: BBC films teach children of 100 genders

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 07:17

This is regarding appalling Bbc schools films around gender.

Very good article.

I'm not sure if this is a share token or not.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bbc-films-teach-children-of-100-genders-or-more-7xfhbg97p

Thread on materials created by the bbc:
https://twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1169174010732695557?s=21

I'm clearly gender queer Hmm

It's worth watching all the films as some are quite eye opening.

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JoyceJeffries · 08/09/2019 09:42

Something extremely creepy about the BBC being so invested in this. They are now creating propaganda.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 08/09/2019 09:46

Yep. They’re actively trying to indoctrinate children with this bollocks. I’m in danger of reaching peak BBC (or nadir BBC?)

I used to love it too. Do they realise that they’re alienating fogeys like me who supply their licence fees and write to our MPs when the odious Murdoch clan try to spin against them?

Stupid stupid stupid

HerRoyalFattyness · 08/09/2019 09:47

I am so glad my 10 year old questions things like this.

He has already had his teachers discussing gender ID with them.
He listens to his teachers then comes home to me and asks me about it. I have explained how it is problematic to self identify and that there are only two sexes, which have absolutely nothing to do with clothes you wear or toys you play with etc.

But it is worrying that at such a young age children are being taught how the belief in gender trumps everything else.

SarahTancredi · 08/09/2019 09:49

The comments are really good. Shame they have taken off the recommended star so you cant like them

testing987654321 · 08/09/2019 10:09

Why is this happening at all? I only came across about 100 genders in the last year or so and only refer to them for comedy value as they are so ridiculous.

Yet some people think they are sufficiently true and important that children need to learn about them at school.

OldCrone · 08/09/2019 10:19

I just watched this. I think any child would be completely confused by the 'explanations' given.
www.bbc.co.uk/teach/class-clips-video/rse-ks2-identity-understanding-sexual-and-gender-identities/zfqrhbk

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 11:03

Ben Elton was on loose ends yesterday talking about his book identity crisis (or similar?) and musing about the absurdity of 'feminists' attacking other feminists for stating that women don't have penises.

He cleverly put it differently so that actually it was very neutral but managed to get women with vaginas and women with penises in several times.

I think he got his fourth wave bit confused though.

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TheBullshitGoesOn · 08/09/2019 12:31

Great article, great comments.

But FFS BBC. My opinion of you was already low. Now it's subterranean.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/09/2019 12:34

The funniest thing is people are paying for this from the BBC!

ThePurported · 08/09/2019 12:58

Who produces this guff? Is it in-house?

EverardDigby · 08/09/2019 14:31

Shame they have taken off the recommended star so you cant like them

I can see the stars, maybe you have to be a subscriber.

cwg1 · 08/09/2019 14:52

this is made-up nonsense

I had that at school. Not gender, it was ITA (surreal 'reading' scheme. It's creators invented extra letters so that there was one for each phonics sound). Bit of a problem, because, if you hadn't learnt it, you couldn't read it, so parents couldn't help, the rest of the world was in boring old normal English - so no 'we need eggs, can you see the sign for them?'.

Let's hope gender nonsense becomes just as discredited soon.

OrchidInTheSun · 08/09/2019 15:25

That film is shit. I really really hate that the BBC is using public money to fund this mendacious propaganda

HipTightOnions · 08/09/2019 15:51

I’m having to watch the film in small chunks, it’s making me so cross. It’s bad enough that the children in the film were exposed to such rubbish, let alone the children who will watch it.

Thereblegeopart · 08/09/2019 15:55

From a biological POV, there is no such thing as gender, from a societal one there is.

Until someone disproves this, and the classification of sex, I will stand by my view and the facts in front of me that the so called 'transgender umbrella' is a load of bollocks.

nauticant · 08/09/2019 16:45

Ironically this is going to be on BBC Radio 4 on Thursday morning:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008b84

Imnobody4 · 08/09/2019 17:17

What on earth is going on at the BBC, I'm just bewildered at their total immersion in this. They must know this destroys their credibility with the vast majority including lifelong supporters like me.

Thingybob · 08/09/2019 17:38

From a biological POV, there is no such thing as gender, from a societal one there is.

For anyone that disagrees I would ask them to imagine a child brought up in complete isolation without any other humans for reference.

Would their biology tell them that they were born in the wrong body?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/09/2019 17:45

They must know this destroys their credibility with the vast majority including lifelong supporters like me.

They are part of a company so big that they have influenced public opinion and manipulated facts for years.
They are a billion dollar worldwide media company, not a small broadcaster working for public interest.
People will continue to follow them regardless of what they do, you are, on the whole, meaningless to them.

OrchidInTheSun · 08/09/2019 18:15

I have been thinking about those kids faces when she tells them there are 100 different gender identities. They didn't look reassured or Teresa's, they looked fucking terrified.

And if any of those kids were actually responsible for the questions they asked, I'd be very surprised. At 9 and 10, my kids had no idea what LGBTQ was and thought the word gender was interchangeable with sex

OrchidInTheSun · 08/09/2019 18:15

Teresa's? Interested!

MrGHardy · 08/09/2019 18:17

What a joke.

Seems like anyone can create their own 'gender' these days.

Needmoresleep · 08/09/2019 18:23

The BBC are clearly not mathematicians. If gender is a spectrum, and sex is binary, by definition there will be an infinite number of genders and two sexes.

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 18:33

The thing is this is soooo confusing.

My very bright friend who is discussed the 100 genders thing with before (and she agreed was nonsense, her daughter has had this) recently said "oh but I didn't realise how diverse intersex is so there really are 100 genders.."

And simply couldn't understand when I tried to explain it was called completely different.

So if she, who teaches 9-14 year olds, doesn't understand it, the kids don't have a chance.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 18:34

Need, you need to tweet that to the bbc. 👊

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