I've been kicked out of a breastfeeding group...

[FairfaxAikman]

On Facebook for objecting to the term "chestfeeding".

For a page called Breastfeeding is the Biological Norm they have a curious aversion to biological reality. 🙄

The kit will probably be out in 5-10yrs. They’ve already “experimented” on newborns with other men who have done this. It will have same level of testing as other stuff given to newborns, like vaccines for example.

Nope. Still not going to happen. You must be living in cloud cuckoo land if you think this ridiculous idea will ever come to fruition.

Of course it will never happen. But the fact some people even talk about it without considering the implications for the baby's health is disturbing.

Of course it does tell you a lot about such people (who are willing - even theoretically - to experiment on human babies).

It's interesting how some biological terms are "triggering" and therefore may no longer be used by women when referring to themselves. Usually they are things that are sexualised by men. Ie. We must call breasts chests, and we must call our vaginas "front holes".
Yet apparently the terms "endometriosis" and "uterus" are OK. "men can have a uterus yahda yahda"...

Am I being thick in that if a trans woman is serious enough about transitioning that they want to try to breastfeed, they would wish to call it breastfeeding because that fits the gender they feel they are and the body they have transitioned to?

They almost certainly would. And if they could lactate then it would be correct to call it breastfeeding.
The 'chestfeeding' nonsense is for the benefit of transmen (obviously not transitioned) or 'nonbinaries'.

Men can chestfeed. Biological XY men. They give them a cocktail of hormones and they produce milk and can chestfeed. They even grow moobs (man boobs).

Yum yum.

Don't all men have breasts? Just very flat ones with very little tissue?

When men have cancer behind the nipple it is called breast cancer, not chest cancer.

Maybe I'm missing something here.

So any TW who are delusional and think they may one day be able to breastfeed might find the facebook page in the OP transphobic? Because it uses the term chestfeeding? Which only refers to transmen or non-binary XX and therefore excludes them?

Mind now in knots. Fortunately my little nursling has made up her own word for it. Of course that doesn't change the biological reality. (that biological reality of millions of years of evolution and all mammalian species )

It doesn’t cost nothing: I worked extremely hard to be able to breastfeed my daughter. Knowing that as a woman I had this unique ability to nourish her was a big part of how we’re were able to persevere through the first few months that were extremely difficult. The power of my female body was what inspired me. The strength that comes from being a mother, not just a parent is what helped me push on. I needed that connection to my essential femaleness. It was my wellspring of power. It made me feel like a superhero to grow a human both inside and outside my body. This was a body that had given me an autoimmune disease. It was a body that had given me cancer. But here I was, a woman, the ultimate giver of life.

Maybe I'm missing something here.

Nope, you're not.

Chest is best?

Aaargh... Men and women have both breasts and chests and they are not the same thing. Why are we changing definitions to appease some people and whilst simultaneously offending others when there is a perfectly good, gender neutral term that could be used - lactation?

Answers on a postcard, please.

God alone knows what they call their womb...

Presumably their mb....

I think this might be the same group that kicked me out for disagreeing that having sex and breastfeeding at the same time was normal and natural. They didn't mean bedsharing but actual intercourse whilst latched on.

My understanding is that 'chestfeeding' is the term used by women who transition to be a man and then want to feed their babies but don't want to call their 'chest area' breasts as this would refer to them being a woman.

Gender ideology is just transphobic nonsense that confuses sex and gender??! Don’t you just love it when gobshites are prepared to argue to the death something they understand so little of that they’ve got it arse over tit themselves?
Idiotic halfwit.

Hmmmm i left a breastfeeding group as the sanctimonious twats got on my nerves.

I would only insist that chestfeed be used accurately. So chestfeed for men, breastfeed for women. I would not want to see all feeding via lactating mamaries called chestfeeding.

But, if the medication causes men to grow breasts (moobs, apparently), then it's still breastfeeding.

Presumably the amounts of hormones needed would be massive and continual and therefore massive doses of synthetic hormones would also be ingested by the tiny baby over a long period of time. It would be feeding drugs to a baby experimentally for what? The baby will have been born of a human woman who could breastfeed instead, or there is formula which is regulated.

It can't be healthy to give the man massive amounts of hormones to make his body do something it was not designed to do, either. It feels like a bad idea for everyone involved.

The world is getting crazier all the time...

(But yes, biological men have breasts, too, so the name-change really makes no sense at all.)

Why do people need to go on these wacky things. If you wan't to breast feed (chest ha ha ) just breast feed,and if not ,formula it is. Social media is wrecking peoples brains, that's for sure.

We need two options for breast feeding support:

1. Trans centred - for trans people, non-binary people and CW (self-identified “c*s” women) - which would use chest feeding, uterus-bearers etc.

1. Woman centred - for the rest of us who use breast feeding, mother and baby etc.

With so many institutions abandoning women, there are business opportunities for “women centred services,” I for one would support them.

What XY male would opt to take a “cocktail of hormones” to grow larger breasts and lactate?

1. Hormone meds are awful.
2. Growing pains and getting used to lactation is painful and uncomfortable.
3. They are going to go through all this to experience the pain, demand and uncomfortable latches the first initial 6 weeks entail.
4. Even when breastfeeding becomes easier there’s the pain of adjustment to every new tooth your LO cuts.

Completely different if a male has transitioned to female and wants to experience motherhood in its whole but they are still breasts and therefore should be called such.

What XY male would want to have periods, with all the pain and hassle it involves?

And yet, some XY males insist they have periods. They even buy tampons and talk about changing them.

It is the same with breastfeeding. Some XY males fetish female biological functions.

A desire to... “experience motherhood in its whole” is an interesting perspective.

*fetishise