I've been kicked out of a breastfeeding group...

[FairfaxAikman]

On Facebook for objecting to the term "chestfeeding".

For a page called Breastfeeding is the Biological Norm they have a curious aversion to biological reality. 🙄

Ooh does this mean when I stoped combi bottle and breast feeding and went pure formula I became a chest feeder? 👌

I've seen this before can someone explain how a man can chestfeed... Am I being thick??

Men can chestfeed. Biological XY men. They give them a cocktail of hormones and they produce milk and can chestfeed. They even grow moobs (man boobs).
This is fact. You have to get it via a specialist and prescriptions, but they’re putting a OTC kit through the approval process.

I would only insist that chestfeed be used accurately. So chestfeed for men, breastfeed for women. I would not want to see all feeding via lactating mamaries called chestfeeding.

How common is that?

You have to get it via a specialist and prescriptions, but they’re putting a OTC kit through the approval process.

Not going to happen.

I have no idea how common it is, presumably because it is relatively new.

Men can chestfeed. Biological XY men. They give them a cocktail of hormones and they produce milk and can chestfeed. They even grow moobs (man boobs).
This is fact. You have to get it via a specialist and prescriptions, but they’re putting a OTC kit through the approval process.

Well that sounds healthy and nutritious.

Nothing says my baby is the most important person in my life, quite like feeding it an experimental mixture of artificial hormone induced chest secretions for your own personal gratification.

What next? Some kind of simulated lochia, for that extra special, super validated feeling of waddling around wearing massive extra absorbent pads inside your knickers?

I think it's far more likely a trans man would breastfeed than a mtf but, as I said upthread, the numbers must still be tiny.

DoomsdayCult If an XY Mmale is given medication to lactate then surely it is also breastfeeding as both sexes have breast tissue and it is the breast tissue that produces the milk?

I'm not disagreeing with you but just curious and find it a confusing term.

So if one of your breasts becomes sore, do you say my left chest is sore. Does that mean you’ve two chests. 😁

Men can induce lactation using a variety of techniques, including using drugs such as domperidone- a drug also used to induce lactation in women who have adopted children - or lesbian non-birthing mothers- and who wish to bf (it is also used by women who have given birth and need to boost supply or to relactate after "drying up".) It does sound odd, but it is true that men can breastfeed.
Of course it does not make a man a woman, which is a separate discussion- but men can produce breast milk from their breast tissue (just as they can get breast cancer).
I'm sorry OP that you were thrown out of your bf group for this, however- it sounds like it was badly handled to say the least.

Chestfeeding!?
What fucking madness is this!?!?
I BREASTfed my boys DS1 til he was 15m and DS2 til he was 3y1m and I fed them with my breasts not my fucking chest! It's not like I whipped my lung out to feed them.
Men have breast tissue too ffs.
You're better off not in that group.

@DoomsdayCult

That OTC lactation kit is not going to happen because it is unethical to experiment on new born babies.

Why do I have to explain that?

If it’s producing milk it’s a breast. If it’s a chest, some poor baby is sucking on a man’s hairy nipple.

Don’t get me started on chemically-induced breast puss milk.

The male lactation kit sounds horrible. And as other have said, surely it's still breast tissue. And what about male nipples?! They're so small!

OP find a new group. I'm 22 months in with my boy and going strong.

OTC lactation kit

There was a half baked project by a design student not long ago glibly proposing something like this wasn't there?

Well, I don’t think we can properly call moobs breasts. They’re artificially induced. You can say a man can breastfeed if you want to, it won’t offend me or anything. I just prefer to call it chest feeding. Kind of like I call implants fake boobs instead of breasts. They’re artificial, they’re temporary therefore not breasts. And “breast tissue” isn’t referring to breasts. It’s referring to tissue attached to the breast bone (or sternum).
And babies aren’t fed hormones by them. The man takes the hormones and actually lactates human milk.
The kit will probably be out in 5-10yrs. They’ve already “experimented” on newborns with other men who have done this. It will have same level of testing as other stuff given to newborns, like vaccines for example.

I don’t really have feelings about this as it’s too new. It’s a sort of gee whiz thing like the guy that went flying down the Thames on a hovering skateboard type thing.

Jeez op. Just tell them to fuck off

Sometimes it’s really that simple

If they’re using a breast to feed the child it’s called breastfeeding.

Did you ask them if they intend to change the group name Op?

‘Man takes hormones and lactates human milk’.
1 ‘takes hormones’
2 what’s in this ‘milk’
3 why exactly would a man do this? It is not necessary for the baby.

Well, I don’t think we can properly call moobs breasts

Sure we can. Here's what the dictionary says:

Definition of breast (Entry 1 of 2)
1
: either of the pair of mammary glands extending from the front of the chest in pubescent and adult human females and some other mammals
also : either of the analogous but rudimentary organs of the male chest especially when enlarged

Oh ffs is this a real thing?!

You can only breastfeed with a woman's breasts. You know, coz they produce milk.

So therefore it's not exclusionary to say breastfeeding.

Sometimes this stuff gets so ridiculous I think I must be misunderstanding it.

My trans friends are so angry that the people who are pushing this agenda don't seem to give a shit that ironically they are making life harder for the vast majority of the trans community because people assume they agree with things like this when they don't!

Am I being thick in that if a trans woman is serious enough about transitioning that they want to try to breastfeed, they would wish to call it breastfeeding because that fits the gender they feel they are and the body they have transitioned to?

Trans men can and do sometimes have babies. Odd that someone who believes they are/ought to be male want to do this purely female thing, but there you are. God alone knows what they call their womb...

And babies aren’t fed hormones by them. The man takes the hormones and actually lactates human milk.

This lack of very very basic knowledge about breastfeeding is really disturbing.

If you take drugs some amount of them will end up in the breastmilk that your baby is drinking (more or less depending on the molecular structure of the drug). Have you not heard the stories of women being told to actually stop breastfeeding because of having to take some extremely well known drug or other at low doses for a very short period of time? I was told to stop bf - incorrectly - because I needed an antibiotic that actual newborns are prescribed so there is some data on their use in actual babies.

Presumably the amounts of hormones needed would be massive and continual and therefore massive doses of synthetic hormones would also be ingested by the tiny baby over a long period of time. It would be feeding drugs to a baby experimentally for what? The baby will have been born of a human woman who could breastfeed instead, or there is formula which is regulated.

Experimentation on babies, feeding them high levels of unlicensed drugs all for a man's fetish. Even the idea of it is disgusting.