Johnson to pitch TRA backlash as part of GE campaign?

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Faisal Islam@faisalislam
“Number 10 has been polling “culture war” issues, such as transgender rights, to see whether they can be weaponised against Labour in northern working-class constituencies” says the Times’ ⁦*@RSylvesterTimes*⁩

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e654014e-cd99-11e9-bfe0-b5ac4ce6ca95
Boris Johnson’s luck might be about to run out

Didn't see that coming a mile off...

Johnson is a trumpist and brexist ergo very dangerous for Women's Rights

Do you mean Brexiteer or sexist? Confused.

I very much doubt Johnson gives a shiny shit about women's rights. But then, he's apparently considering not removing them all, so that's a step up from his opposition's position.

If you're still labouring under the impression that queer theory, currently capturing "progressive" political parties across the world is anything other than a hyper-individualist, ultra-capitalist, uber-libertarian ideology, I'm afraid I can't help you.

I'm pretty certain it was the Labour government that brought in the GRA and it was Conservative peers who were pointing out the problems it would cause (and have been proved right).
The Conservatives brought in marriage equality.

I care for neither of them, but cannot abide the mantra that Labour and the EU are solely responsible for women having rights. It's false.

I care for neither of them, but cannot abide the mantra that Labour and the EU are solely responsible for women having rights. It's false

You're either being deliberately or accidentally inaccurate here.

Please list Women's Rights laws that tories have brought in, or British governments have brought in independent of EU legislation.

This shows how much harm identity politics has done. I don't want to see the right stirring up intolerance. I want to see the left throwing off the grip of narcissistic, divisive identity crap that only helps the already privileged.

Labour Domestic Abuse bill being blocked by Johnson as we speak right now.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3682790-The-Phillip-Lee-defection-and-the-Lib-Dems
Cough

This is an interesting development for the LDs....

I don't care who pretends to care for what, I will never in my life vote Tory.

I apologise if I’m being thick

Why is it bad if a party decides to say that biology matters? I feel I’ve been waiting ages for one party to do this.

There's a vast pool of real transphobia out there, a world away from gender critical feminism. That's what the Tories will be harnessing unfortunately.

I care for neither of them, but cannot abide the mantra that Labour and the EU are solely responsible for women having rights. It's false.

yes it's, blind brand loyalty that has caused this very problem, "Left" good, "right bad" regardless of what they are actually doing.

it's, blind brand loyalty
It's fact.
With the brexit, you'll learn though.

“There's a vast pool of real transphobia out there”

I doubt that is how anything would be pitched?

I watched Hypernormalisation on iplayer yesterday. It kind of explains how we got here :
"We live in a time of great uncertainty and confusion. Events keep happening that seem inexplicable and out of control. Donald Trump, Brexit, the War in Syria, the endless migrant crisis, random bomb attacks. And those who are supposed to be in power are paralysed - they have no idea what to do.This film is the epic story of how we got to this strange place. It explains not only why these chaotic events are happening - but also why we, and our politicians, cannot understand them"

those who are supposed to be in power are paralysed

If those in power actually took charge, understood the opinion of the public and had some kind of actual direction Brexit would never have been a thing.
The actual threat of it would have been very real to them rather than a game and some actual effort would have been made to display the great things provided by the EU to the public, an effort to make the public feel they were listen to and that concerns were understood should have been made at least a decade ago.

As it happens they were clueless on just how many of the public feel about certain things, And the divide between the public and the people in power just keeps increasing, to the point now where we are going to roll back woman rights even though 80 to 90% of the public are against it.

All the political parties are equally guilty in the mess we are in, not one has clean hands and none are fit to be in power.

It would be a pity if this became a Brexit thread

Or is that what it was all along?

With the brexit, you'll learn though.

Yes, because nobody in the Labour party supports brexit..........

The opposition need to wake up and realise identity politics is doing nothing to help ordinary people. Come up with some proper policies that actually address poverty for all poor people regardless of race, sex, religion. Until they recognise wealth is the greatest axis of oppression they will continue to leak support, if not to the Tories to apathy.

What do you think the GE will be about rosa ?

Domestic Abuse rights for girlfriends of PMs?

Payment of Child Maintenance by promiscuous caucasians in positions of power?

His feigned GC sympathy, like that of all the extreme right wingers is just that.

Gas lighting.

This coming GE is all Brexit and it's all Johnson.

If you think he's got any interest in supporting Women's Rights, I envy your naivety.

And everything is Brexit, as will be realised once the body bags pile up, and we end up hungry, medicineless and under martial law.

But do crack on.......

Johnson and his brexit party are marvellous for Women's Rights.

“Johnson and his brexit party are marvellous for Women's Rights”

And anyone else with - we don’t know, a second ref that might turn out the same - will be the same or worse for women if they deny biology.

if the reality gets into the public domain, so much the better. I’ll die on this hill with or without my medication. Also, is there any hope of any other party picking this up?

Anyone believing Johnson's lies is naive. to put it kindly.

The media coverage of the Times article has been infuriating. No attempt to ask why self-ID might be a contentious issue for voters. No discussion of Lily M, TW on all-women shortlists, or any of the other things that Labour has done to alienate women. Just a lazy assumption that the Tories think this is a good ploy because - naturally - all working class Northerners are bigots And, of course, no attempt to examine how policies on trans rights might conflict with women's rights.

During the 2016 US election I saw so many memes from Republicans saying things like "JFK wanted to send a man to the moon. Obama wants to send a man to the women's restroom. We must get our country back on track." And the message resonated with ordinary people and helped Trump win. Maybe that is what Johnson and Cummings will try to harness.

I watched Hypernormalisation on iplayer yesterday. It kind of explains how we got here :

I watched it a few years ago when it first came out. I might watch it again, it would be good to compare it with the interesting times we live in now.

I watched Hypernormalisation on iplayer yesterday.

Very much recommend to anyone who hasn't seen.

woman19 I can't see anything worse for women's rights than denying women, as a group, exist. Anyone who could entertain the idea that 50% men and 50% transwomen would represent equality is clearly insane.

The media coverage of the Times article has been infuriating. No attempt to ask why self-ID might be a contentious issue for voters. No discussion of Lily M, TW on all-women shortlists, or any of the other things that Labour has done to alienate women. Just a lazy assumption that the Tories think this is a good ploy because - naturally - all working class Northerners are bigots hmm And, of course, no attempt to examine how policies on trans rights might conflict with women's rights.

That in itself highlights what the culture is and how its working.

Lack of critical thought from the left and liberals - instead indulging in the mirrored culture war tactics themselves.