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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Great piece by Glosswitch, liberal male commentators, Independent

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NeurotrashWarrior · 31/08/2019 10:10

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/feminism-transpolitics-liberal-male-commentators-sexism-gender-roles-a7649546.html?amp&twitterr_impression=true

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ISaySteadyOn · 31/08/2019 10:25

Yes. And that is a brilliant article.

XenoBio · 31/08/2019 10:54

I am tired of men posing as more open-minded than feminists, when in fact they’re behaving in the exact same way men have always behaved towards women. If you’re a male person telling a female person to be silent about her experiences of gender and power, you’re not only doing feminism wrong, you’re exemplifying the very values you claim to undermine

I recently had a run in with a chap who i regularly deal with in a Professional capacity who i have known and respected for years. I really genuinely thought he was a true feminist ally. Until he started spouting shit about TERFS. I was really gutted as I’d really thought he understood feminism at a fundamental level. That quote right there nails it for me.

In that instant he went from being an ally to yet another man telling me how to think about my experiences. And that stung.

MrGHardy · 31/08/2019 11:20

Perfect!

GlorianaCervixia · 31/08/2019 11:57

Wonderful piece from Glosswitch. I’m regularly amazed at the confidence these woke blokes have when they start spouting off on feminism despite knowing nothing about it. They think women only exist to listen to their lectures and applaud them for their brilliance.

stillathing · 31/08/2019 12:42

Would the Independent still publish this I wonder?
Agree that it is great.

AlwaysComingHome · 31/08/2019 12:44

That’s from 2017. Would they publish it today?

NeurotrashWarrior · 31/08/2019 13:09

Oh dear I hadn't noticed the date.

Yes indeedy, would it get published today?!

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notyourhandmaid · 01/09/2019 04:21

There has been little acknowledgement of the way in which trans politics demands far more of women than it does of men, perhaps because this would require an acknowledgement of the fact that male/female remains as much, if not more, of a dominant axis of oppression as trans/cis. Why aren’t we claiming that “men” needs to become a more inclusive category? ... If sex is irrelevant, why are female people always the ones expected to cede linguistic and physical ground?

Yes. All this, still.

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