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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Queer Theory

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RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 13:33

Can anyone help with a few links to explain Queer theory and origins to a friend in need.
My friend has is experiencing a pile-on at work over use of pronouns in relation to a NB member of staff that she hasn’t even met !
The NB person wants to be referred to as ‘they”within the department My friend expressed natural surprise as she hadn’t come across this coercive pronoun policing before.
She has now been accused of homophobia ( by her colleagues not the NB person that she hasn’t met,) as she can’t understand why she has to refer to them as ‘they’ and has offered to use their first name instead as she is completely confused by this.
This however isn’t good enough for her colleagues and it has left her feeling under attack and bewildered. I think she wants to leave her job.
I would like to help her read and understand what is happening so any links to explain where this has all come from would be gratefully received.

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Coffeeandchocolate9 · 26/08/2019 13:39

No advice but I'm flossing, as my understanding of the term queer doesn't seem to mean the same thing as most mnetters but i would like to learn.

I thought it was another word for generally referring to LGBT+ people. More recently from mumsnet I've started to associate it with "gender" and non-binary, and trans people.

Coffeeandchocolate9 · 26/08/2019 13:40

Ffs. I'm following. Not flossing.

I can't floss.

RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 14:00

I can’t Floss either Coffee! 😂😂

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FleetsumNJetsum · 26/08/2019 14:09

This thread from about a year ago: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3355827-Queer-theory-and-what-it-means-in-extremis?pg=1&messages=25

OhHolyJesus · 26/08/2019 14:15

Will find a link later if stuck so do @ me if you can't find it, just in haste look up Dr Em's 4 essays, 'Trojan horse Queer Theory' to share with your friend.

The No Outsiders programme is based on QT

And lastly check medium for Barracker's piece Pronouns are Rohypnol

Your friend it being bullied into compelled speech. She should notify HR and not give into this bullying. 'They' is plural and the colleague is one person and your friend has been perfectly reasonable in suggesting she use the name of the colleague. Hope she stands her ground, good luck to her.

RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 14:30

Thanks OhHoly. Will go through the thread.
My friend is having a hard time, she is one of the eldest in her place of work. All of this has come as a massive shock. Her coworkers accusations have devastated her.
She works on a zero hours basis so has no contract, they just won’t put her on the rota again l guess.
It’s surreal.

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terryleather · 26/08/2019 14:41

Here's the most recent thread on Queer Theory

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3645941-Queer-theory-origins-of-the-madness

OldCrone · 26/08/2019 15:42

Dr Em's essays are good.
uncommongroundmedia.com/the-trojan-unicorn-queer-theory-and-paedophilia-part-i--dr-em/

Mumsnet thread. The links to the essays on medium no longer work because someone didn't like what she was saying. They've been moved to the site I've linked to above.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3607564-Dr-Em-The-Trojan-Unicorn-Queer-Theory-and-Paedophilia

RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 16:14

Reading and watching all the links. I need to find something that explain why this person refers to themselves specifically as Non Binary. I think most of the links are too dense, l need something simple for someone who has no idea about this at all.
Will check your links now Old Crone.

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TurboTeddy · 26/08/2019 16:58

This is an excellent interview with Susan Cox which I found quite helpful.

There was a this thread a while ago which included more useful links.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3645941-Queer-theory-origins-of-the-madness

RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 20:03

Turbo and Autumn, thank you so much. They are great links.
I am trying not to overwhelm her as she is coming from a position of knowing and experiencing nothing until this work incident.
I am so angry that she has to go through this, she is a brilliant woman, a left wing, ex punk total legend. She doesn’t deserve this.

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WelshMoth · 26/08/2019 20:08

Thanks for sticking by your friend Ruby. I'm afraid this madness is going to gain momentum and word salads like this will confuse most people who aren't falling over themselves to be woke.

RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 20:28

Thank you everyone. WelshMoth, l am trying my very best to explain this discrimination she is experiencing in the best way possible.
I have some links now, but even l can see that with it all laid out it is completely bewildering.
This friend is someone who has been part of/ instigated huge public events that have benefitted some of the very organisations that she finds herself somehow standing opposite to now.
This isn’t going to be easy for her.

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Jog22 · 26/08/2019 20:29

This gives a good short grounding

RubyViolet · 26/08/2019 22:24

Thanks Jog, Wow !!! l have sent that now too.

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