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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AGP help please

120 replies

OpheliaTodd · 16/08/2019 09:56

If a guy has full surgery on his genitals in his quest to “become a woman” does that mean he can’t be an AGP? Because surely - sorry to be crude - in order to get the thrill and pleasure from the sight/idea of himself as a woman, he needs a dick to wank with?

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GirlDownUnder · 16/08/2019 15:00

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GirlDownUnder · 16/08/2019 15:05

Oh and I only came back to say Joisanofthedales I thank you Smile

And Datan I occasionally wear men’s undies (no flashing!), but I read your posts and I’m worried you’ll thing I’m a wrong ‘un!

Grin
Datun · 16/08/2019 15:20

There are certainly. fetish clubs and groups for women in London.

But since that describes two AGP men going at it in the relaxation area, it's not much help, is it mate?

Datun · 16/08/2019 15:26

And Datan I occasionally wear men’s undies (no flashing!), but I read your posts and I’m worried you’ll thing I’m a wrong ‘un!

Keep the fainting with ecstasy to a minimum, and you'll be alright 😆

ChattyLion · 16/08/2019 15:26

Replies on this thread are proper gold Grin

LangCleg · 16/08/2019 15:26

But since that describes two AGP men going at it in the relaxation area

Do they have penis beakers?

GirlDownUnder · 16/08/2019 15:31

Two penis beakers or..... noooooo one beaker with two penis

Oh my

Murmurs is that a peni beaker then??

Not enough bleach.

Fetch Minnie

SophoclesTheFox · 16/08/2019 17:39

After a recent laundry crisis led me to a raid on Mr Sophocles’ underwear drawer for sleeping shorts, I have started only wearing men’s jersey boxers to sleep in. I’ve given him his back and bought some of my own. By god, they’re comfy! And plenty of room for my vag fangs Grin

Should I be posting pictures of me enjoying my manpants on t’internet? Confused

Anyway, I think Minnie my have gone for a lie down, but it’s important to remember their key message which is Don’t Mention The AGP! Nothing to see here!

Hope this was all helpful, op...

LangCleg · 16/08/2019 17:50

I think Minnie my have gone for a lie down, but it’s important to remember their key message which is Don’t Mention The AGP! Nothing to see here!

Grin
FWRLurker · 16/08/2019 17:53

“have fetishes about the weirdest shit, like being shrunk tiny small or women in high heels stamping on balloons.”

I have to admit I find the “tiny man / giant woman fetish” quite delightful! and even endearing (not however, in any way arousing)... Grin

I am curious how this stuff develops, and why so much more in men. I think it might have to do with men experiencing fear and shame wrt performing masculinity properly... then this fear morphs into a sexual thing somehow? shrug

TinselAngel · 16/08/2019 17:53

The speed at which any attempt to discuss AGP is derailed is impressive.

Datun · 16/08/2019 17:54

The speed at which any attempt to discuss AGP is derailed is impressive.

And noted. By all and sundry. There is no hiding the concern.

TinselAngel · 16/08/2019 17:55

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AGP help please
LangCleg · 16/08/2019 18:09

I did not make this!

AGP help please
LangCleg · 16/08/2019 18:34

I didn't make this either!

(Dear MNHQ - don't shoot me! I promise to be good from now on!)

AGP help please
SheWhoMustBeSilent · 16/08/2019 18:44

These guys should just own up to it ... we all know when and how it begins ... we all know that it persists through adolescence into adulthood.

Dr Anne Lawrence [an autogynephilic man] wrote about it:

www.annelawrence.com/shame_&_narcissistic_rage.pdf

This is an issue that is nothing to do with any woman anywhere.

Men need to sort it out among themselves.

[Some autogynephilic men do manage to control their impulse. Maybe other AGP men need to seek those men out and learn from them about self-control?]

AGP help please
TinselAngel · 16/08/2019 18:54

That link doesn't work for me?

SophoclesTheFox · 16/08/2019 19:02

Lang Grin that second pic is twisted genius.

SheWhoMustBeSilent · 16/08/2019 19:07

That link doesn't work for me?

To which link do you refer @TinselAngel ?

TinselAngel · 16/08/2019 19:09

The one in your previous post about narcissistic rage. (Could be me though my parental controls sometimes go rogue).

Eggotchi · 16/08/2019 19:10

Hmm.. thought i'd replied! This thread is ace!

Re: AGP though.. my ex always said 'i like women so much i want to be one'.. i think there is a lot of that around in transwomen, they want to be part of what they see as attractive, sexy etc and so it becomes fetishised and the more they can do bits that make them feel feminine and womanly, the more turned on it makes them. It isnt necessarily the case for everyone, but i do think it plays a large part in a lot of it.

SheWhoMustBeSilent · 16/08/2019 19:21

The one in your previous post about narcissistic rage

[I have maximum parental control applied on my tech [via router and devices] .. so that no porn can ever get through.]

The full title of the paper is:

"Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism"

www.annelawrence.com/shame_&_narcissistic_rage.pdf

IfIShouldFallFromGraceWithGod · 16/08/2019 19:31

Bloody hell I missed the campaign. Can someone sign me up and give me the dates
And a glass of whatever Minnie is drinking please Grin

TinselAngel · 16/08/2019 21:04

That's really fascinating @SheWhoMustBeSilent, thanks for posting it, it rings a lot of bells.

(It was my parental controls).

NeurotrashWarrior · 16/08/2019 21:26

V funny thread!

I'm a ZERF and proud. (Zoflora exclusionary)

I randomly found this which talks about AGP - can't fathom for the life of me why I've kept a link for it. It's was before I was R0 inspired and organised links into my notes.

www.transkids.us/invisible.html

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