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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex is a human right

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Fraggling · 03/08/2019 13:09

It's time for another article about why men with disabilities must be given women to fuck.

I am sick of this.

This one guess further. One person says paying for sex should be a choice, but not the only one (no elaboration what they mean by that).

A man says that it can be easily argued that sex is a human right.

Shocker yet again features zero disabled women chatting about how important it is that they can choose men to pay to go down on them.

The tone of this is very positive. Suggests men with disabilities be given women to fuck on the nhs (presumably men as well if that's their preference but yet again, strangely, only women who are paid are interviewed).

Logical end point of sex as a human right is that men who can't get laid for whatever reason be given women to fuck.

Mens sexual rights presented as human rights / progressive.

There also weirdly seems be a message that people without disabilities are being mean by not having sex with disabled men.

Oh and a cry for 'sexual equality' yes you heard that right.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-hampshire-48875001/disabled-sex-escorts-should-be-a-choice-not-the-only-option

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31RueCambon · 03/08/2019 13:11

I agree with you. Unattractive women. Overweight women. Older women. They just join a fucking book club and get on with it.

Fraggling · 03/08/2019 13:22

I have a disability by the way, physical, spent a lot of time in specialist hosp when a teen with others with more profound disabilities of all types.

The boys/ young men were the same as any other boys / young men I find this idea that they are a special case and must be provided with women as didablist in itself.

We got off with each other in hosp same as if you put any other teens similar situation for periods of time :D (it tended to be measured in weeks how long you were in).

Loads of men can't get laid. Loads of women can't get laid. That's life. This painting of it as a human rights issue so men (and its always men, maybe they will find a woman to talk to soon but we all know its men really) must be given women to fuck is a really worrying development.

This links in to a lot of other regressive moves wrapped up in the language of progression.

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Fraggling · 03/08/2019 13:23

They also said it is the law that case workers etc must procure prostitutes for disabled men.

Are they allowed to object on religious, moral grounds as they are when it comes to abortion care? Doubt it. Spot the difference in who is wanting the service.

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Fraggling · 03/08/2019 13:24

Care workers

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Maniak · 03/08/2019 13:48

Every woman has a right to a hot guy who is trained in sexual service techniques for at least an hour a week. Of course women are free to waive that right. However, access to trained sexperts should be available to ALL women including the elderly and those in remote areas.

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/08/2019 13:51

Can’t they have a wank? Haven’t watched the film but read about this before and it’s clearly ridiculous.

QueenOfPain · 03/08/2019 13:56

Like they NHS hasn’t got enough to pay for already!

Fraggling · 03/08/2019 14:02

Men who can't actually wank for whatever reason are usually cited as the reason all men who can't pull must be provided with women.

This sex as a human right thing assumes a ready supply of women. What if none want to do it? As they say in the piece, the government MUST provide.

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gregoire · 03/08/2019 14:04

This one guess further. One person says paying for sex should be a choice, but not the only one (no elaboration what they mean by that).

I wondered what alternatives she might be referring to as well.

I totally accept that lots of people won't consider relationships with disabled people due to stereotyping and prejudice, and that the world has a long way to go before we can reasonably say that disabled people don't face discrimination or prejudice. This probably does affect their ability to form romantic or sexual relationships. Maybe this is something that could improve with education and equality.

But saying 'sex is a human right' is a bloody awful slippery slope to wheel yourself down when the opposite should actually be true; saying no to sex is a human right.

It is unfair that people with disabilities find it very difficult to form sexual relationships. As a PP said, it's also unfair that ugly, fat, or ill people are in the same boat. But what is the alternative? At the end of the day, the most important and sacrosanct right is the right of any individual to decide whether they do or don't want to have sex with someone. Anything which erodes that right can't be accepted.

15minpaidbreak · 03/08/2019 14:05

I can't bring myself to read this (or is it a video?). Anyway, either way, it's a disgusting argument. No one has the right to use another person's body.

Maniak · 03/08/2019 14:09

Not all women are able to wank to orgasm. Others are in relationships with men who are rubbish at sex. There are some me women who have never experienced orgasm in their lives! This is an outrage. Free classes for young men might be a start.

Gingerkittykat · 03/08/2019 14:13

The man in the video appeared to have little or no use of his arms and hands so could not wank.

I also doubt very much whether many women would be interested in him as a partner due to the severe nature of his disabilities.

I don't believe sex is a right though.

AngelasAshes · 03/08/2019 14:14

Ah I think this is a backlash to several extreme feminist articles that have come out saying that for women “good sex is a human right” and basically that if the sex is bad, it is rape and men should be punished for not prioritising women’s needs in sex.
Not surprised. Both are ridiculous.

Fraggling · 03/08/2019 14:34

When did these extreme feminist articles come out and where can I read them?

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Fraggling · 03/08/2019 14:35

And lol at this, the oldest male desire and the root of most of our problems around the world, being a backlash to any type of feminism 😁

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NottonightJosepheen · 03/08/2019 14:37

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ArranUpsideDown · 03/08/2019 14:38

The man in the video appeared to have little or no use of his arms and hands so could not wank.

There are technical solutions to many common and less common scenarios.

Setting aside other considerations, is there a notional solution in the provided sex would not necessarily need to be with another person?

Much comes down to what is meant by sex. Is it being used as a proxy for an intimate relationship or is it being discussed as a physical/physiological process that is to be assisted in some way by procurement or active assistance..

I'm not sure that providing a fulfilling intimate relationship is the proper duty of any provider.

NottonightJosepheen · 03/08/2019 14:39

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sakura184 · 03/08/2019 14:40

There's lots of feminist analysis about detailing how problematic sex is for women, not for men of course.
It's not like sex is an equal venture is it, because women bear the consequences of it, and not men.
It's literally disgusting to frame male insistence on access to women as a human right.

StealthPolarBear · 03/08/2019 14:44

"Loads of women can't get laid. That's life. This painting of it as a human rights issue so men (and its always men, maybe they will find a woman to talk to soon but we all know its men really) must be given women to fuck is a really worrying development. "

They'll find loads of women who can't get laid for one reason or another and are going on and on about how it's their right to have sex and the responsibilities of others to provide that sex. The vast majority of these women will be lesbians. Lesbians with penises. Jessica yaniv has started the ball rolling (pun intended)

Fraggling · 03/08/2019 14:46

It is literally disgusting but increasingly being pushed from various angles

Including amnesty, Ireland I think it was, stating sex, as in sexual Intercourse with another human being, is a human right.

It seems that many men believe they will die if they don't have sex, same as if they don't have food or water.

Thing is they won't. And yet they are so so so entitled that they state their non universal feelings as fact and demand that other actual live human beings be provided to them by the government.

Can they even hear themselves.

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NottonightJosepheen · 03/08/2019 14:48

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ArranUpsideDown · 03/08/2019 14:53

I searched Amnesty Ireland and I can't find that (I may have used wrong search terms):

www.amnesty.ie/?s=sex+as+a+human+right

I'd be interested in seeing their argument and its context.