This never happens.

[PancakeAndKeith]

Bloody good job that this never happens eh.

(Sorry if it’s been posted but I couldn’t see it)

[https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-49179551?__twitter_impression=true]

And to be clear on that Scottish Trans Alliance umbrella, when it says trans men and trans women, they mean people who identify as men or women. They don't have to make any medical or surgical changes obviously.

Alex Drummond identifies as a woman and as a lesbian. Wrote a book called "Grrl Alex: A Personal Journey to a Transgender Identity". This is Alex in the pic. Alex goes into schools to educate children about gender identity and lesbianism.

Alex says in this article:

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/meet-the-trans-woman-queering-gender-with-her-full-beard_n_55affb34e4b0a9b948538d24

"For a long time equality law and medicine set a very fixed way to be a "proper transsexual" and, for me, surgery and hormones could be risky. However, since the 2010 Equality Act, non-medicalized transition is now a protected characteristic. This makes a big difference".

Alex is on Stonewall's Trans Advisory Group.

WTF?

WTF?

Welcome to 'acceptance without exception'.

Can I not be 'accepted without exception' as a miserable cow who doesn't want to deal with bearded pervy blokes pretending to be women (or does it not work like that)?

Nah, it's acceptance without exception for penis, us cunty types can 'die in a grease fire' or something.

Of course back here in the real world they won't be accepted. Women will just self exclude and they still won't get the validation they seek. Meanwhile our world we be a little smaller and sadder.

Did anyone else notice in the quote from the interviewed person that when they said 'Equality' they solely and exclusively meant 'Trans'? As if race, sex, disability, age etc no longer existed.

Politicians and journalists please copy: a hierarchy of protected characteristics has happened, is in practical on the street decision making and is regarded as legal despite being incompatible with British law. How did policy capture and enactment against the law happen on your watch? What harms is it causing that you're responsible for waving through if not actively supporting in your role? What are you going to do about it?

Alex goes into schools to educate children about gender identity and lesbianism.

Watching Sky News last night, with an item about the protests outside schools by Muslim parents, and the thought did cross my mind "I wonder what the children are really being told? We're expected to side with the schools, and tut tut at the ignorant parents who are shouting outside, but there have been secret recordings linked on here which demonstrated that the teaching isn't as anodyne as is being claimed.

Does anyone have a link to what is actually being taught to primary children?

Thanks popchyk that was my understanding too. Transsexual and transvestite, or cross dressing, are not the same thing.

If any man who likes to put on women's clothing now comes under the trans umbrella that makes a nonsense of women's rights but also trans' rights. As a number of transwomen have pointed out, this could do them real harm.

A man who is heterosexual but dresses as a woman when he feels like it - she feels like? - then demands gay women have sex with him because he/she is now a lesbian, that's rape talk. And it doesn't stop being rape just because a man is wearing a frock.

Didn't Aimee Challenor's father, David, abuse a ten-year-old girl while he was wearing a nappy?

I'm not saying all trans people are sick or in it for the abuse. Most aren't and most are harmed by this. What I am saying is that it seems reasonable to suppose that the trans movement has been hijacked by some predators who see this as a permission pass to find their prey.

The same thing happened in the 1970s and early 80s with PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange) which hijacked the gay rights' movement and was for a while affiliated to the NCCL - National Council for Civil Liberties later to become Liberty. And again, back then, people didn't like to question it because male homosexuality had only recently been decriminalised and right-on people were anxious to be right-on. And yes, it DID call itself the Paedophile Information Exchange. Campaigned to have the age of consent lowered to three. Ostensibly so children could express sexual love for each other; in reality so dirty old men could gain access to young girls and boys.

It's horrible - really really horrible - being able to see all this and being told to shut up and sit down. But least PIE never got the government stamp of approval! "Come in, sit down, how can we help? Oh you want to go into schools do you, fine, go right ahead. Oh you want to be the official body to advise charities and other organisations? No worries. Oh you want seven million pounds a year to run your office? Course! Sure that's enough?"

Feck SAKE what is WRONG with people in charge that they can't see this? Do we have to wait for another Jimmy Savile type scandal to erupt before everyone goes all, oh dear! Oh dear oh dear oh dear. How could this have happened! Well what did you THINK was gonna happen!