Daily mail article - Parents are encouraging children as young as three to change gender without consulting specialists, experts warn

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7258767/Parents-encouraging-children-young-three-change-gender-without-consulting-specialists.html

The NHS's top psychologist for transgender children warned yesterday of a major increase in the trend, saying parents are researching the subject online and taking advice from internet forums and transgender lobby groups.

The warning comes as the latest figures show the number of referrals to England's only specialist clinic for children has almost doubled in four years.

Last year 2,590 children were referred to the Gender Identity Development Service. Ten were aged three and four, and dozens more were of primary school age.

Three and four year olds. Wtf.

Many 'socially transition' at a younger age – but Dr Wren warned that doing so prior to puberty can lead to problems when the child is hit by a 'wall of reality' as their body starts to change.

She said: 'We think that is setting up problems for later. There is no magic solution.

'Some families think the social transition means it is all going to be fine, but it is much more complicated.

'We are anxious that there's some magical thinking that they won't really go through puberty. I'm not condemning these parents, but I think there's much more to learn.'

Dr Polly Carmichael, director of the Gender Identity Development Service, added: 'There are some families where they will talk about it being a hate crime if you get the pronoun wrong with a very young child who has made a social transition.

'There are internet forums where parents talk and, if a parent has a good experience of something, other parents will follow. Parents do want the best for their kids.'

This is an epidemic that's only going to get worse unless professionals, government, media and parents speak out. So yes, she is brave.

Meh, it’s the Daily Mail!

About time that they spoke out. Primary schools need to be aware of this as many of them are currently following the dangerous advice from trans lobby groups and 'celebrating' little children who transition. .

Meh, it’s the Daily Mail!

Yes and it's one of the most widely read papers in the UK.

When my bus went past dds preschool i would often see children in the outside play area dressed up in an variety and sometimes bizarre combinations of outfits.

The children were free to choose. If they wanted a fire fighter helmet and an Elsa dress then that's what they wore.

It didnt mean anything. They were just playing. It's a normal part of the development if a children

If we all took affirmative approaches to our kids wonderful and completely jumbled imaginations then I'd have a dog, and no doubt there would be three dinosaurs, a chicken and an ocelot on this thread as we speak.

This is so disturbing. And this is all from the parents. Turning normal stages if development into a clinical dx of whatever the latest fad is.

I am terrified for these children. Utterly terrified.

If you read the BBC report of the same briefing, there is very little mention of this aspect

Sarah When he was 4 I would pick my son up from after school club one day a week and he'd be wearing a different Princess dress each time.
He had a Princess room, toys and we'd watch Cinderella on loop.
When I picked him up, nobody batted an eyelid. Teachers were used to dress up. How it has always been.
Yet a certain CEO speaks of being terrified that when her son was the same age they'd been watching a Disney Princess film when her son spoke of being a princess. You know the rest.

Four for God's sake! Yet 3 is clearly the new 4. Heartbreaking.

Mermaids have a National Lottery grant of £500K to promote an approach which experts say is harmful.

I’m glad to read this, it’s important. It’s very disappointing other papers aren’t reporting it in full.

My DD had two close friends growing up, the boy also dressed up in all kinds of dresses and princess costumes etc literally all the time, and nobody but his ignorant Dad had an issue. Thankfully the dad didn’t think he needed puberty blockers huh. He’s grown up completely fine in his body too. I despair at what parents are doing. I mean wake up ffs

Yet a certain CEO speaks of being terrified that when her son was the same age they'd been watching a Disney Princess film when her son spoke of being a princess. You know the rest

If you were so bloody sure you had done what was right for your family then you wouldnt need to he pushing it on nursery age kids ffs. Surely you'd just get on with your life.

This need for validation and the utilisation of young children says it all really.

There was a similar article in the telegraph yesterday

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/17/encouraging-children-socially-transition-gender-risks-long-term/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

Meh, it’s the Daily Mail!

What's your point, Billy?

I take issue with not blaming the parents. Clearly the buck stops at their door. 3 or 4 years old and we shouldn’t blame the parents?

Same. Sorry but if you’re doing this you can’t blame ‘social influence’ entirely. You’re the parent. What the fuck are you doing allowing a 3 year old to transition? Sadly there are a lot of stupid parents.

Sadly there are a lot of stupid parents

I wonder how much of this comes from gender disappointment.

So many people when they know they are pregnant with girls are so excited about all the glittery pink dresses they can buy. Never mind what's practical.

And all those people who "try for another" in the hope of getting a girl.

I am terrified for these children. Utterly terrified.

This. This.

All I ever hoped for was 2 healthy babies. I can’t get my head around the gender disappointment crowd, as its so tied up on parental expectation with no consideration of personality or whether the child will share the parents’ interests.

I was wondering exactly the same Sarah.

I think the current "brave and stunning" media narrative, combined with the advice Mermaids dishes out are a toxic combination for parents. I do think some of the blame should be laid at their feet, they have brains and should engage them after all, but when what you see on TV and read in the papers all suggests your princess boy might be trans, then you have that view supported by such an influential charity, who push you immediately for social transition and referral to Tavistock, and push you into a hermetically sealed echo chamber with other parents doing the same thing, it's not that surprising.

I know a girl who finished nursery as a girl then started primary as a boy - a very aggressive boy at That! To say the mother had issues would be an understatement. Not all parents want what is best for their children. This woman walked out on 2 babies then turned up about 10 years later expecting her to be welcomed with open arms! Serious drug history, basically a catalogue of disaster the poor child has been dragged into.

Glad professionals are speaking out and msm reporting on it.

boatyard and sarah

I was shocked on my birth board when I heard of gender disappointment. That my hospital and many others now refuse to tell people due to abortions was just mind blowing. People just paid for private scans but at least NHS was trying to do something.

I cant imagine what it's like for the older children who are boys to see so much excitement and crap bought for the long awaited girl.

I doubt many parents sat in a NICU day after day have even thought about the dress in the wardrobe. Some wont have even held their baby let alone chosen an outfit.

People need to stop expecting everything and everyone else to make them.happy. and go back to school cos clearly they are forgetting about the 50 percent chance it's not what they want.

I only caught the end but think Nick Ferrari was discussing this on LBC this morning. Jane Fae was on and said the usual about puberty blockers just being a pause etc. Nick didn't sound too convinced

Oh might not be over yet, was only an ad break - LBC