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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If transwomen are born in the wrong body, how can their penis be female?

31 replies

AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 13:04

Does anyone know the answer to this?

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thirdfiddle · 15/07/2019 13:11

Logically I suspect the answer is that if you start with inconsistent assumptions you can deduce anything under the sun.

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2019 13:12

It's pointless looking for any logic, there really isn't any.

LangCleg · 15/07/2019 13:13

8th rule of misogyny?!

NotTerfNorCis · 15/07/2019 13:17

Some TRAs have stopped saying they were 'in the wrong body' now, just that they were 'assigned the wrong gender'.

They believe gender is innate and more important than biological sex.

It's so innate that if you can't sense your inner gender, you're non-binary.

Yes, it's all nonsense.

Gingerkittykat · 15/07/2019 13:26

Trans logic- I have always been female so my penis is female. Extend that logic and male uteri are female so you have the pregnant man.

Rosemary46 · 15/07/2019 13:28

Damn , so now I’m non binary because I have no sense of inner gender?

I thought I was a gender or gender free! Bugger, I can’t keep up with all this shit.

Is my vag non binary too or just my inner sense of specialness ?

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2019 13:30

The whole basis of this movement rests on reality being optional and trumped by personal feelings/wishes, and language meaning whatever the speaker wants it to mean. Boundaries of any kind (including truth, facts and basic critical thinking) are hate.

Think of a toddler's response to being told no or being asked to share or wait and you're basically there at the heart of trans rights activism.

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2019 13:32

Also if there is such a thing as a lady brain why are brain scans not part of the dx process?

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2019 13:33

And why if transition suddenly means their previously typical male behaviour instantly changes then into weak vulnerable women incapable of harm then why dont they hand out dresses instead of jumpsuits in prisons ?

HumberElla · 15/07/2019 13:45

The so called ‘logic’ TRAs use changes depending on the audience they are trying to engage.

If audience is schools then they will state children are ‘born in wrong body’

If audience is lesbians then ‘female penis therefore u r transphobic if u don’t sleep with me’

If audience is sparkly award panel looking at your high finance career success then ‘female on the day I was nominated for woman’s award’

Consistency in TRA logic is so 2012. Keep up!

Aaarrgghhh · 15/07/2019 13:46

Magic.

northernresister · 15/07/2019 13:49

TRA's have never had logic ever, changes from person to person.
Always has.

sakura184 · 15/07/2019 13:49

This thread title 😂

AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 13:50

It seems the wrong body thing is mostly designed to get girls to have a double mastectomy and hysterectomy. Men get to keep their dick and become women with a sprinkle of glitter by mermaids. Can you tell I am pissed off?

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EggWrap · 15/07/2019 13:53

It's female flesh but in a form not truly fitting with how their brain wishes the body to be formed.
That's what I'd say, if I were trying to stay inside the 'rules' of all this nonsense.

AncientLights · 15/07/2019 15:07

Ah, but surely the female penis is quite different from the male variety. Who was it who wrote about it being like a shy butterfly? Someone lovingly described the lady dick as having a better smell than its male counterpart and also a better 'mouthfeel' - yuck. Then there was that Avery Edison (or is it Edison Avery?) who waxed lyrical about a woman who wouldn't have sex with Avery but if she did she would realised how a womanly penis would feel so very different inside her.

Yep, no logic, no sense, no nothing.

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2019 15:12

I've seen it framed in disability type terms (you can't discriminate against me being naked in this changing room, it's not my fault I was born with my vulva shaped like a penis and balls) and also framed as "some vaginas are 'outies' (penis shaped) and obviously my lady dick will feel very different to any male dick" (somehow, magically, because the feeling inside the person's head will control the other person's experience.... which tells you a great deal about the personality type and psychology behind the speaker).

If you stick with the basic theory of 'I win, you lose' applied to everything, it makes sense. There are certain personality conditions where it's seen as perfectly sensible to present conflicting views and facts because they all serve the same feeling/purpose . Externally and objectively it's baffling, contradictory and wholly illogical but to the person if it serves their personal internal purpose then it all holds together. Whether the general public should be expected to understand this, and do the labour of catering to it without training or being able to charge by the hour for providing the service, is another matter.

HumberElla · 15/07/2019 15:23

"some vaginas are 'outies' (penis shaped)

God yes, I’d forgotten about this one!

AngelsSins · 15/07/2019 15:32

Ummmm, I think the answer is “Shut up TERF”?

Do I win?

BickerinBrattle · 15/07/2019 15:51

After the transwoman revolves through two, possibly three, epicycles, one can see that the penis, in the faint light of the sun, takes on a pink cast and is therefore female. The balls becomes the moons to the pink penis, and as we all know, moons are female.

Grimbles · 15/07/2019 16:23

Angels.... almost but not quite good enough.

Its shut up and diaf, TERF.

FloralBunting · 15/07/2019 16:28

If you have no sense of inner gender and therefore reject any of the myriad trans labels, that is a clear indication you are 'cis'.

If you were not, your gender incongruence would be such that you simply couldn't miss your gender identity. If it's undetectable to you, that's proof that you have one. Absence of evidence is complete proof, just as the presence of a penis on a female body is proof of the female penis. Shh, stop thinking. Just smile and nod.

DodoPatrol · 15/07/2019 16:41

the feeling inside the person's head will control the other person's experience

That's the whole problem in a nutshell, really.

NataleeY · 15/07/2019 19:00

It isn't. Full stop

DeRigueurMortis · 15/07/2019 19:07

Because they say so.

That's it.

There's zero logic to be applied here and searching for it it an exercise in futility.

That's why TRA's enjoy an echo chamber on social media and hate FWR so much.

The "claims" simply don't make sense.