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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kate Mumsnet

18 replies

NotAtMyAge · 10/07/2019 17:37

Our Kate takes no prisoners in the gender wars. I just love this exchange.

twitter.com/KateVWilliams/status/1148137315585466368

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LangCleg · 10/07/2019 17:39

See plenty more at: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3627466-Kate-ex-Mumsnet-talks-biology-class-and-structural-inequality?pg=1

(She's not at MNHQ any more, btw.)

BatShite · 10/07/2019 17:54

Definitely impressed by her no nonsense stance. I am always low key impressed when women speak out against the juggernaut in their own names, knowing the abuse people get for it. I did at one stage use my own name, sharp changed that when my kids were threatened and it was said they were trying to find out exactly where I lived to 'teach me a lesson'. Husband said bring it on tbh, but it worried me enough to go anon.

HandsOffMyRights · 10/07/2019 18:08

Kudos to Kate.

I'm anon (currently suspended from Twitter) for the reasons Batshite mentions. Cowardly MRAs using parenthood as the stick to beat us with.

But IRL without the Twitter insanity I do use my real name and speak up (albeit cautiously) and this is what those bullies will always underestimate.

Gingerkittykat · 10/07/2019 18:20

What were the "surgery porn" placards?

Very nice line about middle class white men still being the patriarchy.

NotAtMyAge · 10/07/2019 19:50

(She's not at MNHQ any more, btw.)

Thanks, Langcleg. I wasn't quite sure from her Twitter bio, but still think of her as Kate Mumsnet.

What were the "surgery porn" placards?

The placards used at the protest outside the Stonewall education conference last Friday. Jo Bartosch has just published this article on it:
uncommongroundmedia.com/posie-parkers-graphic-protest-against-stonewall-policies/

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/07/2019 19:54

So many ‘unavailable’ tweets. 😆 who was the toddler she was sparring with?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/07/2019 19:55

And the placards are the photos of a girls arm after the op where they (look I’m not going to say it because it’s gross). Far less upsetting than the those held up by anti vivisectionists, anti hunt and stop the war protestors. And they weren’t with them anyway.

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 10/07/2019 19:58

I’m blocked by the bloke she’s responding too. No idea why, first person I’ve ever found I’m blocked by. Is that why it says ‘tweet unavailable’ or has he deleted his responses?

Anyway, cheers Kate!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/07/2019 19:59

I can see some of them so not blocked. I’ve never tweeted and only liked a couple (when someone’s dad was 100 and wanted some likes type of thing). They block people who follow people they don’t like.

NotAtMyAge · 10/07/2019 20:08

This thread is also impressive in its patient discussion of the issues with a transman.

twitter.com/KateVWilliams/status/1147474867161305088

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Chickenish · 10/07/2019 20:20

Shit. Why does racism ALWAYS get brought into it? Angry telling a man that he is not a woman is NOTHING like what non-whites have done and continue to experience from racists.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/07/2019 20:24

I hope she moved from MN for reasons other than being GC...

ChattyLion · 10/07/2019 20:27

Loving her work. Smile

redexpat · 10/07/2019 21:04

Shes bloody marvellous. Im now following her on twitter.

FormerMediocreMale · 10/07/2019 21:25

Great tweets Smile

BatShite · 10/07/2019 22:07

So, saying you disagree with cis as a label and don't want to be called it, is the same as saying you refuse to say you are white? How?

They are SO desperate to push 'cis' onto everyone who is not them, in order to be special in some way for not being walking stereotypes..

BatShite · 10/07/2019 22:09

Cis is a loaded term, used as an insult most of the time, and noone seems to be able to explain what it means (when not speaking chemistry) beyond 'not trans'..but trans covers near everyone. When pushed too, they tend to come out with...stereotypes! As what other explaination is there really..same as when AGPs try to explain how they 'were alway girls'..always comes down to wanting to wear dresses and prancing around with a toy unicorn or something.

BatShite · 10/07/2019 22:11

Mnd, the stereptypes thing is marginally less annoying than the hundreds of boyus who apparently all tried cutting off their penises, only to be found just in time by their mothers. Seems an epidemic, from reading trans blogs! Near all 'transgirls' did it at some point. Of course they did.

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