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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

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Whackitupto200 · 08/07/2019 09:27

JY’s parent sounds like an absolute loon. It would explain a lot.

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GirlDownUnder · 18/07/2019 03:48

It looks like the Times may have picked this up, but it's behind a paywall....

Rosamund Urwin May 19 2019, 12:01am, The Sunday Times

The Sunday Times

Fur flies over ‘Brazilian’ wax for trans woman Jxxxx Yxxxx (I redacted as I had a post further up☝️ deleted as it contained a name, not sure what MN mod rules are now...)
A feminist blogger banned by Twitter says transgender rights are a threat to the existence of female-specific services

Picture caption reads...
JY accuses beauty salons of discrimination for refusing to see her. Meghan Murphy is regarded as a heroine to some feminists

GirlDownUnder · 18/07/2019 05:01

A general search I also found this much clearer newspaper reporting - The Post Millennial

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/another-b-c-woman-forced-out-of-business-in-transgender-male-genitalia-waxing-case/

Another B.C. woman forced out of business in transgender male-genitalia waxing case
 by Cosmin Dzsurdzsa 34 mins ago

From the publication:
Jxxx Yxxx has taken fifteen other B.C. women to the tribunal for refusing to wax her male genitalia citing discrimination based on gender identity and is seeking financial compensation. Many of the woman are of East Asian ethnicity and have English as their second language.

And

Cameron told the tribunal judge that many of YJs claims specifically target women from ethnic and religious minorities and that the procedure to perform a wax on male genitals is different than those performed on a vulva.

Sorry, I'll stop spamming the thread now - I'm home with a broken leg if that's any excuse 🤞

Destinysdaughter · 18/07/2019 05:17

GirlDownUnder thanks for that, can't believe it's got into the press! Comments are open underneath that Canadian article...

emerencesometimeshopeful · 18/07/2019 06:12

Thank you @GirlDownUnder
You being home with a broken leg is helping us all stay up to date.

If someone has a share token for the times article I'd like to read it.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 18/07/2019 06:59

the times article is old, from when Meghan Murphy was over visiting the UK

FannyCann · 18/07/2019 07:00

A media advisory note from the Justice centre with more details.

mailchi.mp/jccf/po8382012mw-1153733

SunsetBeetch · 18/07/2019 07:03

twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1151643541946261504?s=19

"Publication ban is lifted!!!!"

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 18/07/2019 07:07

Seeing who picks this up and how it's reported will be interesting

dontdoxmeeither · 18/07/2019 07:30

Weird. This thread has dropped off my Threads I'm on list, yet I can access it through Feminism chat?

Panicked and thought it had been deleted!

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 18/07/2019 07:33

don't The threads I'm on section automatically declutters, if you don't post on a threads for a few days it doesn't show up.

OvaHere · 18/07/2019 07:37

I thought the same dontdox I wish it wouldn't do that. Just because I haven't had anything insightful to say for a day or two doesn't mean I'm not reading.

GirlDownUnder · 18/07/2019 07:42

the times article is old, from when Meghan Murphy was over visiting the UK

I thought it might have been updated as JYs full name is used, and the waxing cases are referenced. I might have misunderstood tho.

The other article I linked to earlier is def v recent, it was only 30 mins. old when I posted it (copied here)

The Post Millennial

<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=www.thepostmillennial.com/another-b-c-woman-forced-out-of-business-in-transgender-male-genitalia-waxing-case" target="_blank">https://www.thepostmillennial.com/another-b-c-woman-forced-out-of-business-in-transgender-male-genitalia-waxing-case/

teawamutu · 18/07/2019 07:43

May I just commend the Canadian paper on their choice of photo 😁

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 18/07/2019 07:44

That’s why it stays permanently on Threads I’m Watching.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/07/2019 07:48

Is that chicken fillets hanging over the top of the - what is that, a cocktail dress? - in the newspaper report?

GirlDownUnder · 18/07/2019 07:49

May I just commend the Canadian paper on their choice of photo

I heart that photo tea Grin

The photo choice of The Times is much more refined and lady like Wink

Datun · 18/07/2019 07:55

I can't help thinking that lifting the publication ban is a precursor to finding in favour of the defendant (respondent?).

Public opinion will only go one way, and at lightning speed now. Not something you'd encourage if you were intending to find in favour of JY.

With the lid off, surely there will be demands for people to be held accountable now.

Our government need to address how they would handle a similar situation.

Interesting times.

Although I'm sure most people will definitely be thinking what bunch of raging incompetents didn't see this coming. (Or, according to our Hansard, shouted down those who did - thanks Jacky).

Manderleyagain · 18/07/2019 07:55

I get the impression that the post millennial is a bit contrarian, a bit spiked or quilette, not a mainstream paper. Might be wrong. But it's good there is some coverage. Well done Elsie for reporting on this.

Manderleyagain · 18/07/2019 07:58

I can't remember who upthread mentioned posting a card to the women, but i think it's likely a card in an unsealed envelope wouldn't make it to Canada. The lawyers can open it (you could even put a note on the outside to that effect?).

SunsetBeetch · 18/07/2019 08:00

Yes LordProfFekko, and that's what they wore to a town council meeting. There is a video of it somewhere.

TriptychDebbie · 18/07/2019 08:18

The who debacle's made this poor man take to drink Grin

TriptychDebbie · 18/07/2019 08:22

*Whole

Lordamighty · 18/07/2019 08:48

That YouTube vid names JY, which everyone has been trying not to do.

TriptychDebbie · 18/07/2019 08:57

I didn't realise it related to links too. i'll ask @MNHQ to take it down.