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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

James Kirkup: Some women have penises,..

41 replies

TimeLady · 02/07/2019 15:45

James, telling it like it is :

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/some-women-have-penises-if-you-wont-sleep-with-them-youre-transphobic/

It means that straight men who exclusively seek sexual partners with vaginas should instead expand their ‘prospective dating pool’ to include people who describe themselves as women and just happen to have penises. It means that lesbians who incline towards sex with people who have vaginas, also need to widen their horizons and be open to sex with women who have penises.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/07/2019 15:53

That is a fantastic article. I hope it is read widely.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/07/2019 15:53

Who does he date then?

HavelockVetinari · 02/07/2019 15:57

Excellent article.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 02/07/2019 15:58

Really good article. I wish it was printed in a mainstream paper though.

Needmoresleep · 02/07/2019 16:01

Fekko, is this because you are a tiny bit in love with him?

I suspect his dating pool is not restricted in the same way as some of our TRA friends might be. Not least because he is likely to be good company.

Gone2far · 02/07/2019 16:05

Great article thanks for the link.

DeRigueurMortis · 02/07/2019 16:15

It's sad this has to be spelled out.

The inherent homophobia is blindingly obvious.

So is the mental coercion I.e. sleep with me or you're a bad person.

Everyone has the right to sexual boundaries.

If you don't want to be sexually active with someone it doesn't matter why. Just the fact you don't find them sexually desirable is enough - the reason is irrelevant.

It's a god damn slippery slip and I can't fathom why some people can't see it. Where is the line drawn? Do we all need to get into Furry Kink to not offend the Doggy Dudes? Do we set aside child safeguarding so as not to upset the PIE Guys?

It's NOT anyone's responsibility to make someone else happy by subverting their own sexual preferences and safety.

Ever.

LangCleg · 02/07/2019 16:44

The conclusion! That's um.... very carefully parsed.

AlwaysComingHome · 02/07/2019 16:58

There are about 7,000,000,000 on Earth I don’t want to sleep with. I haven’t got time to tell them why.

It should be the default position to assume someone doesn’t want to sleep with you unless they clearly indicate otherwise.

Lamaha · 02/07/2019 17:24

Great article that needs to go viral. Unfortunately I''m not in a position yet to share it. I hope others do.

Whatisthisfuckery · 02/07/2019 17:25

For some reason the share token won’t work for me, and I’ve forgot my sodding password. Any chance of another link?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/07/2019 17:56

For some reason the share token won’t work for me, and I’ve forgot my sodding password. Any chance of another link?

If you refresh the page, and then hit stop loading quickly, it'll load...

ThriceNope · 02/07/2019 18:01

Here's hoping that more and more articles are now framed around how transphobic straight men are for not including transwomen in their "dating pool". Be interesting to see how the wokey blokeys maintain their positions as trans allies while simultaneously pretzelling themselves to get round this one without appearing transphobic.

Whatisthisfuckery · 02/07/2019 18:26

Balls, it won’t work. I have plenty of time to hit stop loading because my internet is so bloody slow but obviously it doesn’t like me.

SlipperyLizard · 02/07/2019 18:37

Hopefully this link (from James’ twitter) will work:

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/some-women-have-penises-if-you-wont-sleep-with-them-youre-transphobic/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

littlbrowndog · 02/07/2019 18:45

Ta slippery. Worked fo4 me

Michelleoftheresistance · 02/07/2019 18:45

James definitely hangs around MN. Grin

UnboxingSoon · 02/07/2019 18:46

I can't read it either.

littlbrowndog · 02/07/2019 18:47

And I will have sex with who I want not because I don’t want to hurt some dudes feelings

Fuck that
It’s called coercion that is

LenoVentura · 02/07/2019 18:51

LangCleg yes, that's the killer line that everyone needs to read, pause and read again. I agree with him.

LenoVentura · 02/07/2019 18:53

Do we set aside child safeguarding so as not to upset the PIE Guys?
Yes, DeRiguer that could be inferred...

Aspley · 02/07/2019 18:54

This stuff cannot be said enough.
I have seen people on Twitter explicitly say that anyone rejecting a trans person needs to explicitly justify it lest they be called a bigot.

I have rejected people for far more superficial reasons than their gender identity, however only my stated rejection of a single particular group has lead to raised eyebrows.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 02/07/2019 18:58

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Michelleoftheresistance · 02/07/2019 19:01

I have seen people on Twitter explicitly say that anyone rejecting a trans person needs to explicitly justify it lest they be called a bigot.

And the answer is a confident, cheerful, fuck off, you're nuts.

MockerstheFeManist · 02/07/2019 19:18

Well fuck your feelings.

And that's all I'll be fucking of yours.