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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride

376 replies

OrchidInTheSun · 23/06/2019 11:15

How charming!

twitter.com/pupchester/status/1142449770893586432?s=21

When asked if he thought this was suitable entertainment for children before Pride, PupChester said no (see screenshot)

So if Pride is a celebration of fetish, why are our police and town councils supporting it so broadly? Why are we closing streets to parade BDSM fans?

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride
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jacksonmaine · 25/06/2019 22:47

Also Pride is held in the city centre on a Saturday afternoon. It is hard to avoid if you need to go to the centre on a weekend. If it is now inappropriate for children then it should be contained elsewhere.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 22:48

Is this why every month in the city centre I see groups of people dressed in furry dog costumes?

Yes.

Some of them enjoy wearing nappies too. Amongst other things.

It's a sexual fetish. I thought that was pretty common knowledge nowadays actually.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 22:54

QueenofAshes - did you join up to school us all on how it's not a fetish actually?

It is.

KettlePolly · 25/06/2019 22:54

QueenofAshes "Owner." By definition dominant.

Kilbranan · 25/06/2019 22:55

I’m struggling to post something that won’t be deleted. This thread is appalling - people defending the rights of (mainly men) to display their kink in public while encouraging kids to be involved. Whether the children understand the kink or not is irrelevant - this is abusive behaviour
Pride need to decide - family friendly LGBT, normal people with families etc
Or
Lgbtqik alphabet soup including furries, nomaps etc and have the rest of the world looking on with disgust but never mind at least they get to show off their kinks

LassOfFyvie · 25/06/2019 22:56

Seriously, have you seen some of the things these guys have on their twitter accounts? There's a bloody good reason they've all suddenly protected their accounts

Pupchester had a gif of 2 people dressed in black latex - one was anally penetrating the other. There was nothing in the twitter profile to warn it had that sort of material on it.

TemporaryPermanent · 25/06/2019 22:58

Dom/sub isn't always sexual? Damn I'm doing it wrong.

of course it's always sexual. In some relationships the dynamic extends beyond the sexual part of the relationship but it does so in order to enhance the sexual side. I have never been in a dom/sub dynamic as part of a non-sexual relationship.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 22:59

Lass I saw it. I didn't need to see it.

There is worse on other accounts on his timeline/his followers' - nappies, ejaculating into dog bowls - oh you know, just totally mainstream stuff... not a fetish at all. No problem with involving kids at all...

jacksonmaine · 25/06/2019 22:59

ZebrasAreBras

No I'm sorry I had no idea!! I thought it was similar to comicon type stuff. I feel a bit sick now. FFS. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Sad

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 23:03

jacksonmaine - honestly - that's the point. Normalising to the point that you see no difference between dressing up as your fave comicon character, and furries/pup play. It's deeply sinister.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 23:06

Jacksonmaine just to be clear:

This comment I made: It's a sexual fetish. I thought that was pretty common knowledge nowadays actually.

  • was to QueenofAshes, in response to their post above, not to you Smile
QueenOfAshes · 25/06/2019 23:07

did you join up to school us all on how it's not a fetish actually?
No I'm a regular poster but NC a lot. I understand it's viewed as a sexual fetish but very often it is not.

I think the concept of 'owner' would have been lost on a child. Seeing someone in a dog costume, I don't think automatically gives messages about Dominance to children.

. I have never been in a dom/sub dynamic as part of a non-sexual relationship.
I have, as have a fair few of my friends. I have also been involved in non-sexual pup play and know lots of people who are too. The sexual aspects are usually the only parts heard of outside of these groups and obviously it isn't true of all relationships, but it's certainly popular to have this dynamic often within certain communities.

As I said, I don't think they should have been hosting the children's area, but I don't see harm in them being at the event to participate.

Erythronium · 25/06/2019 23:13

they are just people wearing unusual clothes and walking in a procession.

They are people wearing their sex clothes and enjoying exhibiting them in public. It is so creepy to try and normalise children seeing this.

KettlePolly · 25/06/2019 23:16

Queen Put your feelings to one side to make sure children aren't having to process adult sex play. This is very basic adulting.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 23:33

"I have also been involved in non-sexual pup play and know lots of people who are too."

I guessed you might be a pup. It's all sexual, don't kid yourself, and certainly don't try to kid us.

What drew you, as a pup play type, to Mumsnet I wonder.

AlwaysComingHome · 25/06/2019 23:37

ejaculating into dog bowls

It’s frankly bizarre to dress up as a dog and then behave in a way that even a dog would think was sick.

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 23:41

Always - It's anthropomorphism: sexual fetish edition.

Goosefoot · 26/06/2019 01:05

Adults don't go around pretending to be dogs just for the play value.

2BthatUnnoticed · 26/06/2019 01:43

Dude was sitting there with a raging boner while interacting with children.

Men were indulging their kink in a space designed to attract children, at a “child friendly” event.

I seriously side-eye anyone splitting hairs about whether the owner/pup dynamic is “always sexual” or not. It’s a kink, FFS. Kinks are sexual, and they do not belong around kids.

Some elements in society seem to be trying to blur boundaries and normalise this stuff. Don’t let them.

WombOfOnesOwn · 26/06/2019 04:26

All the "non-sexual" furries and pup play people will eventually admit, ok, they have "cuddle parties" and other clearly sexual gatherings, or engage in clearly fetishistic behavior but deny its sexuality.

It's not surprising. People who have erotic target location errors, like believing the best sex partners are the cartoons they watched as kids, or who think it's sexy to be diapered and changed, are often surprisingly unobservant of their own obvious-to-everyone-else-in-their-lives reluctance to engage in normal human sexual relationships.

These types of "you always have to be dominant/submissive" relationships are also highly immature, and engaged in by people who clearly have no idea how to engage in normal relationships.

No, I won't take that back for the next person who gets offended by this generalization. I"ve met plenty of people in BDSM relationships, and was involved in the community for years. The immaturity and black-and-white thinking that was prominent among community members was stark, and the "munches" were clearly a place for local losers to congregate. There'd always be a couple of naive teenage girls, and loser immature 50-something men who were there for the easy prey.

I'm tired of Pride and the "open minded" crowd rolling over at these ridiculous "sometimes furries/pup play/BDSM is totally non-sexual, guys" ideas. The fact that some of these people who are uncomfortable with normal human sexuality are also not comfortable calling their sexual urges "sexual" isn't shocking.

QueenOfAshes · 26/06/2019 08:12

What drew you, as a pup play type, to Mumsnet I wonder.
Um....I also happen to have DC, along with lots of other things in my life. But I guess because there was a bad decision to have human pups at the children's tent, that must mean anyone who has ever adopted the role must be a paedopille. Good logic.

And for the record, I don't think BDSM itself has a place at pride either and for the third time in four posts, they shouldn't have been at the tent. But considering the origins of furries, I can understand why they where at pride. I'm pretty sure a lot of the info online about furries states its not sexual on the whole, it used to at at least, likewise human pups although admittedly less so.

ReanimatedSGB · 26/06/2019 08:24

People in funny outfits pushing harmful ideas about sexuality directly at chidren and young people have been around for years, though. It's just that they are usually called 'religious leaders'...

FloralBunting · 26/06/2019 08:26

Blimey, it's deflection city on this thread, innit?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 26/06/2019 08:38

Hang on, it’s OK to enact your BDSM fetish in the street ‘cos the Catholic Church? That is, indeed a new one

HorsewithnoHoldsBarred · 26/06/2019 08:41

People in funny outfits pushing harmful ideas about sexuality directly at chidren and young people have been around for years, though. It's just that they are usually called 'religious leaders'...

We all know how well that went.

Stop trying to justify current bad behaviour by comparing it with olde stylee bad behaviour.

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