Pup play fans dance for children at Pride

[OrchidInTheSun]

How charming!

twitter.com/pupchester/status/1142449770893586432?s=21

When asked if he thought this was suitable entertainment for children before Pride, PupChester said no (see screenshot)

So if Pride is a celebration of fetish, why are our police and town councils supporting it so broadly? Why are we closing streets to parade BDSM fans?

And even if I gave any credence to your explanation (which I don't) I don't think it should over-rule the general principle that we do not hide our faces away. The very minor benefit which going masked might confer on an individual is not worth it.

Very true. For instance, seeing a MAMIL (middle-aged man in lycra) might mean it's someone with a fetish - or a cyclist having a mid-life crisis. Some people think bare shoulders or bare thighs are in some way indecent. And some people find specific types of clothing erotic even though most other people would never think of those types of clothing as erotic/indecent/not suitable for public places (eg military uniforms or Goth-type clothing).

I can't say I agree. It's not objective in the sense that clearly the male nipple is not erotic and the female nipple is. It is however true that each human culture has its own sense of what is a sexual boundary and what is, for want of a better word, modest.
The important thing isn't usually where that boundary is, its the fact that it exists at all. It's a recognition that some things are intimate, that we don't subject others to our intimacies, that it is a kind of exploitation to do so. This is a human universal because it is about physical integrity and respect for the body.
It can become, in various ways, twisted, and in our culture the way that usually seems to happen is in the direction of pushing the sexualisation of people, denial of the idea of privacy, or intimacy, of sexual integrity. It's not a blow for freedom to break down these kinds of barriers, its a blow against it.

I dunno, if someone wanted to hunt down and attack their estranged gay child, I’m not sure they would choose the Pride parade to do it... surrounded by 10k potential supporters of said child!

The whole thing seems irredeemably grim to me.

Idunno, if someone wanted to hunt down and attack their estranged gay child, I’m not sure they would choose the Pride parade to do it... surrounded by 10k potential supporters of said child!

It seems a tad improbable.

Pencil -really well articulated. Thank you

"Mermaids take puppies and sweets to pride, in order to attract children"

Really? That in itself seems off to me.

Do they genuinely think caring about boundaries for kids = vile?? “Pup” community is trying to cement its spot under the rainbow flag. They’ll be adding K for kink soon.

Oops would help if I clipped the right one

Children won’t be able to, and shouldn’t be expected to, contextualise that dynamic

Children go right up to age 17 though, so at which point does it become OK for children to know about these dynamics and sexual content etc? Only as adults?

So you can do anything and tack on the word ‘Pride’ and it’s ok? Hmmmmm.

Cake pride
Swear pride
Not had a shower for a few days Pride

I think this is rolling on the back of the current cry of ‘**shaming’ for any comment made to anyone. About anything.

Yes len as adults

Yes len as adults

But they can be sexually active at 16, with over 18s if they want, should they just be having standard sex at that age?

Come on len stop beating about the bush and tell us at what age you think children should be introduced to kinky sex.

You obviously have an age in mind.

#Come on len stop beating about the bush and tell us at what age you think children should be introduced to kinky sex.*

You obviously have an age in mind.

No, I don't. I'm just thinking about when I was a teenager. The idea that we shouldn't have known about kinky sex until 18 is ridiculous to me.

Yes they should. We've all seen what early exposure to fetish leads to - a drive to take more and more risks in order to get off ending up with you filming yourself knocking one off in the loos at a children's safeguarding charity.

It's the fetish equivalent of death grip. The dude isn't even 30 yet. Where's he going next to have to go to carry on getting the same highs?

How about putting a bar in the tent, rather than a ball pond, and interacting with people who can legally drink? Would that be a bit too 'standard' for you Len?

How about putting a bar in the tent, rather than a ball pond, and interacting with people who can legally drink? Would that be a bit too 'standard' for you Len?

Huh? I'm not defending the pictures, they are wrong. They shouldn't be interacting with those children. My point was "children" is a big group, big difference between a sexually active teen and an 8 year old..

Older kids do know about this stuff though. They laugh about Furries. My teen asked me "are Furries people who dress up like animals and have sex"? Christ. Who wants to be answering that one.
Perverts have always existed but now they have the Internet to get validation from and it makes them bolder.
The best thing about the Internet is that people can find like minds and not feel isolated.
The worst thing about the Internet is that people can find like minds and not feel isolated.

There is and I do take your point. Young people will become aware of things at different ages. But I think the aim by adults should be for sexual fetish (and for that matter drinking alcohol) to be adult-only pursuits, on the whole.

Older kids do know about this stuff though

This is my point. Plenty teens already know about curries, BDSM, kink, either through porn, social media, or things like erotic fiction, or through their friends, music videos...

Curries

Yes. But I don't think adults should be reinforcing that.

Oh yes good point IfNotNow - my teen and tween think furries are hilarious. Something slightly distasteful about an 11 year old knowing about fetish (and his older sibling didn't tell him)

What’s the age for buying the porn pass they gvt is bringing in? We need to keep children and young people away from porn - it gives (especially the violent stuff) youngsters a skewed view of sex and violence.

My point was "children" is a big group, big difference between a sexually active teen and an 8 year old.

That's queer theory thinking.

This thread is about child protection.