The Freedom Programme: “Women don’t have penises”

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Right there in their Twitter bio @freedomprogramm

Followed it up with this tweet (screenshot). Note the first response is someone doing that passive-aggressive faux naive thing “Um, I’m confused, are you being transphobic?”

twitter.com/freedomprogramm/status/1141668337610645511?s=21

Someone also replied “So you don’t help trans women?” Jeez, can you imagine how many trans women find themselves in abusive relationships and unable to defend themselves against male violence? If such trans woman even exist, what would the percentage be in relation to women in the same predicament? 99.999% vs. 0.001% trans women?

Anyway - glad to see a women’s organisation standing up for women and the dictionary definition of woman.

She’s tweeted before about the sheer number of people who hassle her to create a specialist programme for trans people. She’s pointed out over and over that they should do what she did and create their own. She’s brilliant.

It's not the first time they've said this.The name of the amazing woman behind TFP slips my mind for now, but she's incredible and brooks no nonsense. More power to her for taking a clear and consistent position.

Oh yes, she is right on it. She still has total control of her organisation and so she is still where the buck stops. Long Live the Freedom Programme

Fantastic!!

Her name is Pat Craven and I think I am right in saying she started out on her rather than say being part of a group or women's aid, but she does now work with refuges.

She was under attack about 18 months ago but seems to have stayed strong.

www.youtube.com/channel/UC5LKTuDSbKZtCyp-xqGeL1Q

TFP help women see through gaslighting.

You can't mess with Pat Craven and she won't be bullied either. She always has a smile on her face but that doesn't mean she's a push over and she's certainly no fool. Service users are women and that's the way it will always be. I love Pat so much. She saved me. She and Chris have saved thousands of women with books and courses. I help them whenever I can. I always will.

What an inspiration.

Well this has cheered me right up!

Think I've just found a home for some of my former monthly nspcc donation. Thanks, as so often before, for the info all.

Pat's decision not to become beholden to funding orgs and to finance her own work has been the best thing she ever did.

Look at the difference between the Freedom Programme's clear assertion that they exist for women and nobody else and vast swathes of the so-called women's sector.

I still wish MNHQ would stump up the £12 for the mods to do the course.

First time I've heard of this. Thank you, The Freedom Programme.

Just a thought: Pat's magnificent refusal to give any fucks is one reason that got shot down so quickly but I'm sure there would have been a massive TRA pile on a few months ago.

Someone also replied “So you don’t help trans women?”

Of course

Also, good to see this. Though, they could not really take any other stance with their work really, given to scream at women they are bigoted for seeing men when people are men..would be gaslighting on a large scale.

That tweet put me in mind of this quote from a gay male FB group who wanted to keep the group male only and exclude females identifying as men..

I also loved that quote. And he came to MN as someone sent him the thread we had about him.

Fucking brilliant

I’d also like to send them a donation, did anyone find out how?

I also loved that quote. And he came to MN as someone sent him the thread we had about him.

Oh I must have missed that, how fabulous!

The power of MN FWR - nearly as exciting as when Jane Clare Jones came on here, not ashamed to say I totally fangirled over that.

Go Freedom Program!

I still wish MNHQ would stump up the £12 for the mods to do the course.

Jesus, I'll stump up the £12 for the mods to do the course. At this point I'm a strong drink away from lobbying the BBC to live stream the damn thing to the entire country!

Thank god there are still some sane women’s groups and charities that exist. Unlike virtue signalling organisations like the Women’s Equality Party or the Girl Guides.

I actually was pissed off about the Scouts letting girls in until they explained they needed it for the money etc but still doesn’t sit right with me. All this protesting about men only groups is now biting feminists on the arse. However even I as a bloke recognise that trans men pose much less of a danger to real men then trans women do to women.

It’s still a risk though that if you send your son to a scout camp he’ll come back as a father when things were completely segregated it couldn’t possibly happen for scientific / biological / common sense reasons

All this protesting about men only groups is now biting feminists on the arse.

There’s a huge difference between the men’s only groups that feminists were protesting about and what this crowd want. The fact that you admit you were pissed off about Scouts wanting girls to join, before you even understood why, speaks volumes about you. Btw, they didn’t LET girls in, they needed and asked them to join. Stop being so bloody ignorant.

TFP is a shining beacon of sanity and sense in these dark times. So grateful for it.

Hang on, I'm in the UK, who's been protesting men only groups?

A quick Google shows results from the US where women protested anti women's rights groups.
I don't know any feminist who thinks that a support group for prostate cancer should include women. GTFO out with the fake 'facts'.

Caledonian I emailed them to ask about donating. Chris replied they are switching banks or something like that & she'll be in touch about it soon.