Can someone explain...

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Why this is transphobic? I believe that it was written by a transsexual person and seems quite sensible to me. The TRA's are kicking off on Twitter over it calling it Transphobic.

That’s brilliant

Maybe because playing the victim is part of the requirements and without it they would have nothing to moan about.

While I agree with a lot of what is said in the content, having it under the banner of "5 steps to eradicate transphobia" is hugely victim blaming. Yes, TRAs should be respectful of feminist viewpoints etc and many things would improve if they all were, but that is NOT going to "eradicate" violent transphobic attacks (usually carried out by men who have zero concept of feminist issues around transactivism).

The middle "tip" appears to blame most transphobia on the behaviour of the trans individuals - if you are trans and have experienced discrimination (which surely must happen to individuals who don't ever demand access to female only space) then to have it all blamed on you and your approach is horrible.

As GC people we should defend men's rights to wear make up and dresses peacefully (without going into the ladies') - this reads as if any discrimination is due to them not passing well enough. They shouldn't have to pass to be left alone, peacefully, without abusive comments etc.

(I'm also very uncomfortable with the change starts with you paragraph. Women (trans or otherwise) can look like, walk and talk how they bloody well like)

Entirely agree with Beingnices' post above me.

The aggressive TRA movement tends to distract us from remembering the very real transphobia / homophobia / misogyny that gender non conforming people of all descriptions can face. (whether they see themselves as trans or not). This will not be dealt with by trans people being more respectful and considerate etc.

It conflates transphobia (which is real and horrific) with reasoned argument, and that makes it sound very "victim blaming".

It is the fault of individuals like McKinnon, Oger, etc, that they are criticised and disliked by feminists. It's their entire raison d'etre. It is absolutely not the fault of any trans or non conforming person of any kind when they are violently attacked or discriminated against.

As a woman I would kick off big time if I was told that being ‘modest and polite’ was the answer to violence and personal attacks (we’ve been told that for centuries and it’s bloody unacceptable) I understand why a trans person would find this unacceptable too.

It's their entire raison d'etre. It is absolutely not the fault of any trans or non conforming person of any kind when they are violently attacked or discriminated against
But are they? Really? I mean the law protects them from being fired because if their trans status . And statisticllay they are less likely to be killed than women. They are probably the safest demographic. Nore men and more women are killed by men than trans people. In this country anyway.

Dont feed into the poor oppressed little victim narrative. Took women years to earn the right to vote. They have had policies changed and police knocking on doors within weeks.

I mean the law protects them from being fired because if their trans status

The law also gives the right to provide sex segregated spaces, and we know how well that's enforced.

Discrimination does happen regardless of the law.

It is very victim blaming and if there was a similar leaflet advising how to eradicate sexism with that advice I would be massively pissed off.

I know it does . However the discrimination claimed is not because they are denied basic human legal rights. Its because they want ours.

It’s assuming Trans people are responsible for transphobia.
Trans people could do all of the things suggested and they could still encounter transphobia. It’s really not a nice message.

Agree with PP. Completely victim blaming. Will remove transphobia (genuine) by 0%.
It's just another 'be nice' thing.

I know it does . However the discrimination claimed is not because they are denied basic human legal rights. Its because they want ours.

This has nothing to do with the poster in question.

Why are you uncomfortable with the change starts with you paragraph? Genuinely curious as it's respectfully suggesting an attitude change towards others. I see far too much bile and hate from people who think it's acceptable to demonise women for not being on board with the TWAW.

It's not telling anyone what to do. It's advising others that if you wish to gain respect and understanding then you have to respect others points of view.

"talk walk and act like the gender you believe yourself to be" is not only transphobic (because you wouldn't tell a woman that she has to look like a stereotypical woman would you?) but also promotes rigid gender roles. I don't think many butch lesbians would like being told that change starts with them and if they don't want lesbophobic abuse then they should just dress and act like society tells them.

"Change starts with you" could be seen as victim-blaming. Akin to "well if gay people weren't looking to be offended all the time, it would be fine! It's their fault they get upset about homophobia, they need to change"

The thing is though butch lesbians arent suing people, or threatening peope with baseball bats or wearing t shirts saying I kill terfs if mistaken for a man.

I dont think anyone should have to change anything about themselves at all to make people happy. They should do and wear what they like within the confines of the law.

However getting aggressive and threatening when people dont affirm something that isnt even remotely clear is a behaviour that needs to change.

Well I guess that everything is transphobic then isn't it @LenizarLyublyu?

Be the gender you want to be - transphobic.

Don't dress how you wish - transphobic.

Asking people not to use slurs when talking about women who disagreed with them - transphobic.

No wonder no one can find a way forward because everyone will find a problem instead of looking for a solution.

I think it's because the poster is really talking about 'transphobia' and not transphobia.

So the sort of 'transphobia' where women talk about having periods rather than the sort of of transphobia that means people end up in hospital or worse.

It's not a guide to avoid physical assault by violent homophobes etc which are awful but, thankfully, quite uncommon. It's a guide to enable people to live their lives without perceiving other people living their own lives as 'literal violence' towards them.

The thing is though butch lesbians arent suing people, or threatening peope with baseball bats or wearing t shirts saying I kill terfs if mistaken for a man.

So this is just directed at that subsection of trans people is it? Because genuine transphobic does exist in the world, and this poster does place the blame of that onto all trans people.

No, not everything is transphobic. But you are lumping all trans people into this same group. How do you think this poster comes across to a trans person who is not one of the "omg you have a period how tranphobic I am literally female", who is bullies and told they are disgusting for being trans? They just need to change their attitudes. It's not a good poster for the simple reason that it doesn't distinguish between these two groups.

It is not blaming anyone. It is suggesting a way forward. As the poster says stop looking for something that isn't there. 🙄

Be the gender you want to be - transphobic. how? Nobody can "be a gender" imo, it's societal expectation. I

Don't dress how you wish - transphobic. Telling anybody not to dress how they wish is wrong, trans or not.