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Owen Jones Twitter feed

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christinarossetti19 · 13/06/2019 10:46

Lil' OJ is being demolished as he tries to defend Bergdorf etc

Look now if you're interested as it will no doubt be deleted soon.

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1138809431792263169

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DuMondeB · 14/06/2019 15:29

Pretty certain my DH will say his company would suspend and immediately contact their in house employment lawyer.

R0wantrees · 14/06/2019 15:40

It amazes me how entitled some people are. How they think they can do what the fuck they like with an employers time or money and that somehow they are untouchable

Ive worked in voluntary & statutory sector and without fail those whose practice was at odds with the needs of service users when challenged were the ones who dug in & extracted the most time and money before they were eventually dismissed.

Its not a coincidence.
The focus was on their needs & their rights which was why they were unsuitable to work with and for children / vulnerable adults.

Goosefoot · 14/06/2019 16:04

Surely once is bad enough, but twice (that we know if, it seems extraordinarily unlikely he didn't do it again and again and again)

I would think that would weigh heavily on the side of whatever procedure they have for such things. If they documented it, which might be an issue as people often don't bother.

But it sounds like he will try and claim homophobia, which could drag things out, even if they did take appropriate action right away.

Outofinspiration · 14/06/2019 17:18

We must all pull together

😂

MenuPlant · 14/06/2019 17:51

Alright yes you have to investigate.

PP was implying that this, assuming assuming evidence true, it would still be hard to sack them

It wouldn't it would be gross misconduct which is no warnings no second chances.

If it is true that this behaviour wouldn't constitute gross misconduct in lots of orgs then there is a problem.

MenuPlant · 14/06/2019 17:53

I have known 3 people fired gross misconduct

There then gone

Fibbke · 14/06/2019 18:02

we have 'indecent behaviour' as one of our reasons for dismissal for gross misconduct.

I'd be amazed if the NSPCC didn't.

hipsterfun · 14/06/2019 18:13

New MB/OJ on Twitter

Goosefoot · 14/06/2019 18:35

PP was implying that this, assuming assuming evidence true, it would still be hard to sack them

Not at all. I was implying that getting people fired is not simply or straightforward in a lot of cases, even for good reason. Unless by hard you mean, it takes good documentation, going through all the right hoops, possibly court cases - in which case, yes, it can still be hard.

Notwithstanding that some people seem to get fired when they shouldn't.

It's not unusual for employers to find sacking difficult enough that they try and achieve the same thing through alternate means.

MenuPlant · 14/06/2019 18:40

Getting people fired?

You mean, firing people?

Intetesting phrasing.

Fibbke · 14/06/2019 18:47

getting people fired???

Doyoumind · 14/06/2019 19:16

The Guardian are peddling the OJ interview again on Twitter. They have been told repeatedly it's an inaccurate representation. No one there has responded to the question about safeguarding in a week of this.

JackyHolyoake · 14/06/2019 19:31

I knew there was a reason why I love Jospehine Liptrott!

Enjoy!

twitter.com/JoLiptrott/status/1139226559473213440

Goosefoot · 14/06/2019 19:49

Well, getting people fired isn't elegant grammar, but I think its meaning is fairly clear, the process of firing someone.

sackrifice · 14/06/2019 20:00

New MB/OJ on Twitter

Be still my heating heart.

hipsterfun · 14/06/2019 20:02

Ignore, rehash. Sorry Blush

aliasundercover · 14/06/2019 21:29

I'm not on Twitter, and I have no idea how to 'retweet', but I'd like to show this to everyone:

twitter.com/HermanDHerman
It's so great to see Owen Jones et al condemning the terrible homophobia of the Iranian regime who hang gay men from a ... what? What? Ok. Correction: it's so great to see OJ et al condemning the terrible homophobia of people who object to men making gimp porn in the office loo.

I saw it on Simon Fanshawe's twitter page

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/06/2019 21:34

getting people fired

I think the problem is that it sounds like someone is doing something to get that person fired...on purpose

Not just...firing them

Someone has used exactly the same phrase (a common one i know) on another thread saying Jo Brand ‘got someone fired’

Outofinspiration · 14/06/2019 21:44

Do you know what, I'm seriously starting to get pissed off at Owen Jones now and his doubling down on this.

Retweeting again that Guardian interview of Munroe claiming this is about transphobia.

How dare you Owen. How. Fucking. Dare. You.

How dare you continue to just totally ignore the reason that Munroe got dropped by the NSPCC in order to further your own agenda. How dare you ignore child safeguarding in order to continue to bleat on about 'transphobia' and 'homophobia'.

I'm so appalled, I can't even believe what I am seeing with my own eyes.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/06/2019 21:48

Ive seen the ‘naughty’ post

Im not sure why it was deleted as most of it seemed perfectly factual to me

SaskiaRembrandt · 14/06/2019 21:48

I wonder which part of 'The Post' Sanctimonious Morph most objected to - where he was called a piece of shit, or where his working class credentials were called into question. because he isn't working class, you know. All that stuff about being a down-to-earth salt-of-the-earth, working class lad from Sheffield is utter bollocks.

He lived in the most affluent part of Sheffield (one of the most affluent parts of the country, in fact), and his parents were educated professionals. He'd like people to think he was brought up in a council house in S5, but the truth is he has never even ventured north of the Don, and is actually a nasty middle class oik who has such a huge sense of self-importance he thinks he can position himself as the spokesman for a group of people he has never met, has nothing in common with, and whom he clearly feels contempt for.

Hey, Owen - I guess you'll see this given your penchant for lurking in these parts looking for screenshots - Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about you

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/06/2019 21:50

saskia

I reckon it was the shit bit

Rest of it was true and even the shit bit is just a matter of opinion

TurboTeddy · 14/06/2019 22:01

Thank you Saskia appreciated The Pulp track, made me all nostalgic. I'm loving Sanctimonious Morph too.

SaskiaRembrandt · 14/06/2019 22:29

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer I think it was being told he isn't working class. Being the spokesman for the working classes is his whole claim to fame, without that that he's just an insipid posh boy who went to Oxford, with nothing to distinguish him from all the other posh Oxford boys. He'd be a leftie version of Michael Gove - dull, pasty and mediocre.

SaskiaRembrandt · 14/06/2019 22:31

TurboTeddy It's an awesome song Grin

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