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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transpaining FGM

24 replies

Lamaha · 10/06/2019 10:17

I don't know if this has been posted before; I seem to remember having seen something about or by Radical Snippets here once.
Anyway: I found the Patreon blogger Radical Snippets through Facebook. She has many very well-written and profound blog posts and articles, but as a mixed-race woman, this one in particular caught my attention and raised my ire.

Apparently, FGM is horrible, but the apparent "cissexism" endemic in discussing it is even worse.
What kind of mind even THINKS that way?

www.patreon.com/posts/transplaining-27210589

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Lamaha · 10/06/2019 10:19

oops, sorry. typo in subject heading. Transplaining. Thouh TransPAINing is a rather interesting Freudian slip in this context!

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Popchyk · 10/06/2019 10:29

Schooling victims of FGM that they are not allowed to state that they were cut because of their female sex.

"Your leveraging your trauma to justify your transphobia is unkind".

Not allowed to talk about FGM because it isn't inclusive. Of men.

And then the racism kicks in.

Horrific.

TheInebriati · 10/06/2019 10:33

How many Rules of Misogyny can you count?

3dogs2cats · 10/06/2019 10:34

I am so angry now . So angry. That is absolutely disgusting

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/06/2019 10:46
Angry

No words.

Didn't know there was a Patreon, will donate.

Popchyk · 10/06/2019 10:51

Organe stating that FGM victims are selected based on their gender identity, not their biological sex because of course that doesn't exist.

Presumably those who are intent on performing FGM find an equal number of girls and boys, do their cutting on all children and somehow it is only the girls who end up mutilated. Somehow.

And the patriarchy is to blame apparently so women should accept Oger (a biological male) telling women to shut up about FGM. That's how to defeat the patriarchy apparently.

And then scolding Jana for talking about what happened to her. Because that's transphobic.

Demonstrates how utterly insane it all is.

littlbrowndog · 10/06/2019 10:58

So to follow on ogres line of thought.

If Jana had identified as a guy then she wouldn’t have had FGM done on her

How does that line of thinking work. It’s so inhumane

Lamaha · 10/06/2019 11:29

@Littlebrowndog exactly.
So. The way to combat FGM is to tell female-bodied potential victims to just identify as boys. Job done. It won't happen. Magical protections steps in.

But, seriously. The claims and reasoning of these people gets more outrageous by the day.

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butteryellow · 10/06/2019 11:43

"Your leveraging your trauma to justify your transphobia is unkind".

I'm having trouble with this sentence. On the relative severity of the words. It seems unbelievably crass to equate being 'unkind' with the trauma of FGM.

It's like the whole assault vs misgendering.

Kill vs. Laugh

It's fucking men assuming that their experience is universal, that the worst thing they experience is the worst thing women experience, and using that as the basis for equality of severity.

Popchyk · 10/06/2019 12:12

And given how "triggering" the female body is, you'd imagine that male people who identify as women would avoid all talk of female biology like the plague.

But no, they seek it out - they are all over talk of FGM, menstruation, abortion, to talk about how "unkind" it is. To talk about it. Not to actually experience it.

You never hear of women who identify as men all over the prostate cancer online forums, asserting that men there have cis privilege. And that talking about prostate cancer is using their cancer as a leverage for transphobia. And making horrific racist statements to black men on there.

No, it is just women in the line of fire. As ever.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 10/06/2019 14:49

Morgane: "The truth is that nobody knows your sex except through how you express it as gender."
It all comes down to Morgane's own delusion that everyone sees Morgane as a woman based on Morgane's gender expression.
This dangerous deluded person should not be anywhere near a position of power.

Michelleoftheresistance · 10/06/2019 16:21

There comes a point to step away from trying to engage with and figure out the logic to communicate with someone like this, because the bottom line is, they're out of their minds. You can't convince someone like this of reality or that other people have needs, they've lost all touch with it.

Justhadathought · 10/06/2019 16:38

Oh my God!

I can't believe the despicable racist comments beneath.

These people are beyond odious. Disgusted!

AlwaysComingHome · 10/06/2019 17:01

Oger is one of the worst people in the planet. If you hated transpeople - and I mean really, really hated them - and wanted to invent a particularly awful stereotype for propaganda purposes, you’d come up with someone just like Oger.

JellySlice · 10/06/2019 17:49

Morgane: "The truth is that nobody knows your sex except through how you express it as gender."

We see you

Lamaha · 13/06/2019 07:30

Well, it had to happen. Radical Snippets has had to take down her site and had been forced off Facebook and can't be messaged either through FB or Twitter; a bunch of men are after her. Luckily when people are forced underground they become like spies and find their secret ways of communicating. Things are planned.
I think the anonymous GC tribe is just as dangerous to the TRAs as Posie &co as they can't see what we are doing -- until it's too late.
The fight goes on.

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Lamaha · 13/06/2019 07:40

However, the Pantheon article is still available. But who knows for how long. She did say she is unpublishing for a while so if you haven't read it yet, do so now.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/06/2019 07:42

Seriously - so desperate are they that they are actually jealous of a small girl who has has her genitals cut with a rusty blade and sewn up - without anaesthetic and at risk of dying from infection, blood loss or bloody shock? Living in pain as an adult.

Awwww the weans.

Lamaha · 13/06/2019 07:47

You don't understand, Lord. Their feelings were hurt. Because they can't get FGM. The poor things.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/06/2019 08:14

I can’t get testicular cancer. Can’t say I am weeping into my cornflakes over that one.

BatShite · 13/06/2019 08:22

'This story is horrible, but the inherent cissexism is even worse'

Fucking hell Hmm Yes, saying FGM happens to females because they are female is obviously a lot worse than FGM being performed in the first place.

Ereshkigal · 13/06/2019 09:38

And given how "triggering" the female body is, you'd imagine that male people who identify as women would avoid all talk of female biology like the plague.

But no, they seek it out - they are all over talk of FGM, menstruation, abortion, to talk about how "unkind" it is. To talk about it. Not to actually experience it.

This. Always bear this in mind. Then you can clearly see what is going on.

JellySlice · 13/06/2019 10:57

Yes, they're all over it trying to stop us talking about all this ewwww woman biology stuff. Just stop it you mingers!

aPengTing · 13/06/2019 11:11

Who the fuck do these people think they are?!
This whole being nice and trying to find compromise blah blah blah with such people is a load of shit and will be our downfall.

I’m so angry.

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