Julie Bindel physically attacked after meeting

[MsMcWibble]

Seems to have been carried out by well known TRA who has threatened violence before: twitter.com/bindelj/status/1136402563379716096

Absolute - yep, that's the tweet - thank you

I notice at the foot of that article about Peyton Rose was this:

A spokeswoman for Police Scotland said: “Police in Edinburgh have charged a 27-year-old woman in connection with a communications offence following a threat being made on social media.

The important word being "woman". Because the story doesn't make sense unless the reader knows that Peyton Rose is a man who identifies as a woman. Rohypnol yet again.

A separate posts to say I'm raging about Julie. How dare that sad fucker?

I've seen her speak three times in the past few years, and I've respected her for years. She is a valiant, principled and effective campaigner - and funny with it. She is a sister and I honour her.

And to have her attacked by some no mark... Does TattleTown have any idea how hard this will be to sell to future employers?

Huge Bindel fan here too, Prawn. I can't imagine how she must be feeling today. And thank goodness that person did not actually get his hands on her. Well done, security guys [who should be able to provide excellent witness accounts to police if need be]. It took three of them to restrain that person from what I have read elsewhere.

So, we're not allowed to hate men who physically assault women now, or discuss their awful behaviour, just in case it hurts their feelings.

Gosh. What ARE women allowed to do in the face of male violence, I wonder?

Or, you know, men who assault women could act like fucking adults and just not be violent, and then we wouldn't be discussing it.

Also, what Lang said.

Yes, I was going to give that "won't we think of the menz" post both barrels but Lang did it so beautifully.

Holy mother of fuck!
I can't believe someone had the audacity to come on to this thread were we are discussing violence against women to say we shouldn't discuss the person who attacked a women in case it hurts their feelings.
Its a whole new level of batshit.
I refuse to be censored on this and will keep talking about it here and on twitter

Let's just juxtapose how TattleTown reports this:

"Because the truth of the matter is that I did not raise a fist. I attempted to push past security so I could speak face to face with a person who has caused great harm to trans people across this country."

With what Julie Bindel describes:

Today Ms Bindel said: "I have been beaten up by men in the past but not for a long time, and I knew precisely what was coming when I saw the rage on his face, and I am just so sick of this. There had been a protest outside earlier, but that had gone so he was obviously waiting for me. He was shouting and ranting and raving, 'you're a f c, you're a f* bitch, a f*** Terf" and the rest of it. We were trying to walk to the cab to take us to the airport, and then he just lunged at me and almost punched me in the face, but a security guard pulled him away. I got my phone out to film him to get evidence and he went for me again. It took three security guys at the stage to deal with him."

I know who I believe.

I seen on twitter

Why is stonewall not reporting an attack on a prominent Lbgt person

Is it because she is a lesbian

Mumsnet educated me about this whole issue. Without mumsnet then I would know nothing about this debate beyond thinking we should be nice to folk who had had or intended to have a sex change. It’s thanks to mumsnet that I now actively campaign on this issue .

But I have no interest in being part of the polarised ends of the debate where people cease to treat each other with respect and humanity.

I have no desire in excusing or defending the actions of this person who screams abuse and attempts to attack Julie Blindel .

But i’m Astonished that people on this board whose opinions I respect don’t understand the link between their typed abuse and personal insults at person and their behaviour. it is obvious will be reading this and will use that abuse to justify continuing to escalate their
Hatred.

Ofcourse talk about this, talk about how the media have given this dangerous individual a platform and encouragement, talk about the whole issue, educate folk about the danger of the proposed law changes, the ridiculousness of stonewall’s position, the woke idiocy of our politicians, the danger to austistic children. Please do, please continue. But you can do all that without deliberately inflaming the behaviour of this unstable individual by posting photos of them, discussing how they look, calling them «it» and that’s even without giving a shit about fucking pronouns.

Treat them like a human being.

At the moment I feel like the scales are falling from my eyes abit. I feel the same way about the tone of this thread as genuine trans woman must do about Towntattle’s behaviour. IE- jeez, stop proving them right.

Both behaviours are the result of inflaming a debate. Both cause the situation to escalate.

I want to spend my time debate, lobbying, trying to find compromise and trying to understand different positions.

ginger. You are saying we must not state that a woman has been attacked because it might make the attacker angry.

littlbrowndog - They're no doubt on a conference call with Pink News working out their strategy for framing TattleTown as the poor victim of nasty Julie Bindel.

Policing womens language.

No i’m Not saying that! I’m saying stop with the Insults.

Ofcourse you should still talk about what has happened. But you can do that without the insults.

But also - there is no abuse here, that I have seen. Show me. Please. If you can find a quote in this whole thread that is actually abusive, not just stating fact, please show me it. Yes, lots of women are very, very angry, but please note that nowhere has anyone said anything abusive, threatening or defamatory.

All I can see is women despairing that in 2019 we are still unable to meet, and discuss issues, without fear of violence, threat of losing our job, etc etc etc.

I was doubly disappointed because I was so heartened that the Glasgow event passed without incident, and had hoped Edinburgh was going to be a successful event with what looked like a well organised protest, which is all fine and part of a healthy democracy.

I have exactly the same wishes as you - I want these issues debated, discussed, rationally and without coercion.

Threats and abuse and violence are not fine. We cannot live like this.

I’m a woman and a fucking terf at that.

I don’t thinks it’s intelligent to inflame thus debate with insults.

I think it’s completely possible to talk about the seriousness of this debate without posting an individuals photograph next to the caption «young woman» . Without calling the person «it». Without sarcasm and insults and hated.

They are still a human.

A fucked up misbehaving undoubtably mentally ill human that should not be encouraged and that hopefully Julie blindell will prosecute for their actions.

But still a human.

Other wise it’s circular isn’t it, the escalation continues.

ginger Towntattle is a ‘genuine transwoman’. We are not allowed to question men who decide they are women. We must accept it regardless of their male violence, their male body, male appearance, male entitlement, male crimes, male privilege...

Ginger, I agree that generally I try to be as kind and thoughtful as possible. But honestly, do you not think that after what was apparently a frightening verbal, if not physical attack, following a pattern of threatening and abusive behaviour, people using sarcasm is really ... a fairly understated response?

ginger, did you miss the tweet saying that the attack on Julie bindle is a complete invention, made up in order to demonise a young woman (towntattler) ?

Don't you think an outraged, disbelieving response to that is perfectly acceptable?

But what "insults" are you referring to, ginger?

But i’m Astonished that people on this board whose opinions I respect don’t understand the link between their typed abuse and personal insults at person and their behaviour.

Women CAUSE misogynist male violence. Where is TheBewilderness when we need her? Oh, right: banned for calling a spade a spade.

I don’t recall which of her rules of misogyny you just articulated, ginger but I know one of them is the belief that women are responsible for the actions of men.

I don’t want to get banned, so I’ll refrain from mentioning the big fucking garden tool in plain sight.

ginger, did you see this? The picture, I believe, took a while to load for that particular poster and you may have missed it.

This vile person is a stalker of women and in doing so means to do violence to them.

Hope your voice is not lessened by this Julie. Solidarity.

gingerginger2 fwiw I did not read your post as saying that you wanted people to stop talking about this.

What I read was that you found the way people were talking about this unhelpful in that it seemed in some, but not all, instances to mirror the mindless hatred that has been the hallmark of transrights activism.

At least one poster has been honest in that they want freedom to express their hatred.

I take your point that hatred is not going to solve any of this (it descends into nothing more than group emotional masturbation) and I too think that naked hatred destroys reason and makes it impossible to fight either violence against women or trans activism. I don't care what anybody on here says about me for expressing this opinion and I'm pretty appalled at the way people seem to have enjoyed joining the scrum on smelling your blood in the water.

I just want to say don't let this put you off doing what you can against the trans madness that is going on - plenty of people are channelling justified anger in more positive ways. Mumsnet may have been great for raising awareness about this but it is not the only avenue and the people who have attacked you on here do not own the fight.