Dearest MNHQ, please please please would you...

[ScottishDoll]

change the details section here from Gender to SEX since that is what is actually being asked. Sex matters.

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Agreed.. not everyone has a gender. But everyone has a sex.

It should be sex.

Not that I'm giving Mumsnet any fucking info on my children anyway though. :)

Count me in. #sexmatters

And me #Sexmatters

Surely if we give any info on whether our DC are girls or boys, & they are too young to have decided for themselves, we could be "violently misgendering them"? Obviously we don't want to do that, do we. So either we need to be able to give the biological sex information, or at the very least, it needs to be acknowledged that MN don't actually need to know this information about our DC.

Me too #Sexmatters. Sex is real.

Gender id, meh - a set of beliefs that could fluctuate by the minute.

I'm agender but by tomorrow morning could be veering towards two spirit, who knows?..... As for my kids, hoping they'll understand biological reality but they could turn out to be Wokey McWokeFace with a set of gender ids not yet made up discovered. How could I predict? So what info exactly are you trying to gather MNHQ?..

My youngest has SN and still understands that gender is a thing that makes girls feel like they can’t do boys things, but are expected to do things like wear makeup, dresses etc. She thinks it’s ‘silly’ because she can do the same as boys. She does, however, know what SEX she is. Now that’s embarrassing MNHQ. A child with special needs recognises the difference between sex and gender, but you don’t?

Yeah, its a bit odd given how many discussions there are about the difference between gender and sex, that MN ask for your gender. I mean, I don't really see what relevance your sex has to an online forum but I see even less relevance in them asking which stereotypes you follow. Unless its for targetted advertising or something! Gender = fmeinine, bam thousands of makeup and dress adverts.

And me.

Targetted ads aimed at kids based on 'gender' would be a very poor show, not sure there are many sex specific products either other than some brands of nappies

Are MNHQ going to comment on this? Have reported my post as totally agree gender is meaningless and sex is real

@LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD

Unless they put an open text box there (I’m ‘superspacevixen’ gender - well today anyway).

Green-eyed with !!!

ps. SEX not gender!

We all know MNHQ are constantly being harassed by the TRAs, so it makes sense that they don’t want to be accused of ‘transphobia’, by using the word SEX! 🙄

We all know MNHQ are constantly being harassed by the TRAs, so it makes sense that they don’t want to be accused of ‘transphobia’, by using the word SEX! 🙄

Yes, but there's no reason at all to use the word 'gender' which is seriously offensive to many regular MNers. They've nicely worked out how to avoid using either for the poster - it just says 'I am' with a choice (iirc female/Male/prefer not to say) - so, surely not impossible to do something similar for the children section?
Heading 'they are', then choices (f/m/PNTS, or G/B/PNTS) and 'born'...

I agree ErrolTheDragon, but it doesn’t take much to offend the woke.

Given that my two are now 51 and 48 I won't be filling that section in, but I'm another who won't respond to any question which talks about gender. SEX is observed at birth and that should be enough.

It's a pointless question, surely.

It doesn't matter what gender someone is, as the word is completely meaningless these days. Well, at best.

At worst, it reinforces ridiculous stereotypes, perpetuated by advertising companies, and the trans community.

Yes, please change it.

It's sex.

Use the proper word, MNHQ, don't be squeamish.

Just popping in to say we have seen this thread and it will be discussed in the office as soon as possible.

Thank you esther

Imagining wasting your time caring about stuff like this

Ah, and here ^^ we have the lesser-spotted bitch plop.
A rare sight.

Imagining wasting your time caring about stuff like this

Imagine not caring.

Just gonna add my name to list wanting sex not gender, please.