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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbians on chairs AGAIN, this time drinking coffee

54 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 01/06/2019 13:10

At Bradford Pride today, confronted by police in a coffee shop

twitter.com/LesleySemmens/status/1134779247925649409

Lots of Twitter threads about it

OP posts:
WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 02/06/2019 01:00

Enormously priviledged to ruffle some boas Ancient.

Deathraystare · 02/06/2019 09:44

Lesbians on chairs drinking coffee?? Hope it was decaff. The nerve! In daylight!!!!! Did they have biscuits or cake?

LizzieSiddal · 02/06/2019 10:16

I hope those who were questioned by the police, ask for a full debrief into why the police approached them.

It would be very useful to know exactly what the turn of events was.

theOtherPamAyres · 02/06/2019 12:29

I hope those who were questioned by the police, ask for a full debrief

They should go further than that. Please, please, if anyone is in contact with the group can you point them in this direction or send a message.

They should report a homophobic hate crime, committed by the hoaxer. His or her actions were designed to cause alarm to a group with a protected characteristic.

The police have a lead in the crime enquiry (a recording of the call and details of the caller). They also have witnesses (the police officers themselves who established that the caller had lied and weaponised the police).

Get it recorded as a crime or even a hate incident!

MoleSmokes · 02/06/2019 13:17

Hate Crime and Hate Incidents info and reporting - West Yorks Police:

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/advice/abuse-anti-social-behaviour/hate-crime/hate-crime-hate-incidents

Orchidoptic · 02/06/2019 16:49

Perhaps the answer is to sit on the floor! As the police keep attending to chair sitting. Hmm

Mumminmum · 02/06/2019 17:18

On the twitter thread someone wrote that the police have to investigate all complaints. But that is exactly it: They don't. Plenty of people have had burglaries in their homes without the police bothering to show up, plenty of women have been sexually harassed without the police giving them the time of day. If women are the victims then the police don't feel they have to "investigate all complaints".

VickyEadie · 02/06/2019 17:27

On the twitter thread someone wrote that the police have to investigate all complaints. But that is exactly it: They don't. Plenty of people have had burglaries in their homes without the police bothering to show up, plenty of women have been sexually harassed without the police giving them the time of day. If women are the victims then the police don't feel they have to "investigate all complaints".

THIS, THIS, THIS!

theOtherPamAyres · 02/06/2019 17:38

the police have to investigate all complaints. But that is exactly it: They don't.

This wasn't a complaint, as such. This was a piece of 'intelligence' given to the police.

The police were already in the city centre for the Pride March and their purpose was to ensure that the crowd and participants were unobstructed and safe. In that context it was a top priority to investigate whether the group were peaceful protesters or a hate group. They did just that.

Redshoeblueshoe · 02/06/2019 17:45

Is there a picture of the banner ?

Sunkisses · 02/06/2019 17:52

@theOtherPamAyres yes, the hoax call could have been about a homophobic group wanting to protest about Pride (unlikely but maybe this happens...?). But the police should have established what the evidence was for the suspicion it was a 'hate group' before visiting a group of lesbians in a cafe. You are absolutely right that the lesbian group should make a complaint to the police about the hoax caller and establish whether the police asked what evidence there was.

SunsetBeetch · 02/06/2019 18:17

One of the men involved has cime forward to brag about it. Were there 'trans kids' there? I didn't see any in the video.

twitter.com/RobWilsonLtd/status/1135155050890891270?s=19

Lesbians on chairs AGAIN, this time drinking coffee
SunsetBeetch · 02/06/2019 18:19

AND! He volunteers with the police in relation to hate crime.

Hi Rob, I see the you deal with hate crime as a police volunteer. I’d be grateful if you could tell me if the tweets in this thread comes under hate crimes. There’s an awful lot of violence & intimidation t.co/PFh3ht6cBu

twitter.com/JammersMinde/status/1135156807926726657?s=19

This is Robs (a police volunteer) reaction when asked if violent threats against women is a hate crime. I would have to take this to mean that if a woman reports anything to Rob she will be dismissed. Scary! Could this be related to @WYP_LeedsCity @HarryTheOwl @WeAreFairCop t.co/Zgqu7EVaGP

twitter.com/JammersMinde/status/1135169603250864128?s=19

Lesbians on chairs AGAIN, this time drinking coffee
Orchidoptic · 02/06/2019 18:22

Woo big man showing off about what he did to those women. Bet he feels so tough. How dare they be sitting minding their own business. Angry

Orchidoptic · 02/06/2019 18:23

Excuse the random comments. Having a bad mood day. Fed up with all of this.

LizzieSiddal · 02/06/2019 18:24

Rob needs reporting to the Police he volunteers with. It seems he’s not quite interested in everyone he says he represents.

theOtherPamAyres · 02/06/2019 18:36

the lesbian group should make a complaint to the police

And not this incident only. We need to encourage lesbians to report more incidents of hatred shown towards their protected characteristic.

The victimisation and intimidation of lesbians needs to be recorded in official channels. That way, the likes of Stonewall won't be able to hide behind the lack of reporting.

Ereshkigal · 02/06/2019 18:53

Get it recorded as a crime or even a hate incident!

I agree. Call the police. Every time.

Michelleoftheresistance · 02/06/2019 19:18

Either you believe in equality for all or you don't believe in equality at all

Oh dear God the irony... the sheer stupidity.

Yes, you Woken Muppet, our point exactly

You certainly don't believe in equality for anyone you don't agree with or like or who has issues like disability, race, sexuality, culture, faith, that get in the way of your agenda, do you? Or for lesbians who don't want to have sex with males. Or for women that want women's rights. Or children who want safeguarding and to be allowed to say no a la the pants campaign.

Equality for all and not just trans people is the whole issue.

They say the words like bloody parrots yapping catch phrases. It goes nowhere near any form of critical thinking, does it?

Ereshkigal · 02/06/2019 19:52

How is one "LGBT+ to the core" exactly?

JessicaWakefieldSV · 02/06/2019 20:10

Rob needs reporting to the Police he volunteers with.

Absolutely. This needs to happen ASAP.

FloralBunting · 02/06/2019 21:12

Is it churlish of me to notice the wheelie bins prominent in the selfie of the totally rubbish human being who is so very proud of intimidating lesbians for defining themselves and their boundaries?

PegasusRex · 02/06/2019 23:51

here is a thing I wrote on medium about yesterday

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2019 01:07

Great read, PegasusRex. Absolutely beggars belief.

After Pride’s opening speeches, some men came over to try to get us to leave, when we refused they attempted to cover our banners with transgender flags. A gay man came over to explain that lesbians have no right to oppress transgender women by refusing to have relationships with them. A video of that exchange was recorded and even watching it back I can see a man looming over a woman on a mobility scooter trying to intimidate her. Gay men telling lesbians that they are bigoted to want same-sex relationships. A group of large men telling women to be quiet and capitulate to what men believe is right. Who is oppressing who here?

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 03/06/2019 01:48

Just read pegasus
He accepts that being a homosexual is now transphobic So was this gay man saying he would have a relationship with a transman then?
Because most of the men on data lounge wouldn't.

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