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Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record

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MoleSmokes · 29/05/2019 18:06

There are several existing threads about Helen Webberley and a recent one about Mike Webberley "Dr Mike Webberley suspended" that includes LOTS of interesting info about their several joint business ventures involving online prescribing (all sorts of medication, not just gender-related), relocation of their "GenderGP" service to Spain with the business address being moved to Belize, etc. etc.

I first posted some of the info below in that thread and @R0wantrees suggested that I start a new one.

Since the Webberleys seem to be "partners in crime" I thought it might be a good idea to start a new thread that helps us to pull it all together for both of them and facilitates linking to the revelations in other threads.

(Links do not work in "starter posts" so I will add them in a post below this one. Please give me a moment to do that before commenting!)

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InsulatedCup · 05/06/2019 10:41

I hope the GMC takes note of Dr Helen Webberley's appearance at that roadshow this weekend.

Talk about lack of insight.

And if you go to that roadshow, do you really think you are going to get objective advice from:

A) a suspended doctor whose business model depends on people choosing medical intervention for their dysphoria

B) A counsellor who has herself medically transitioned

C) A determined mother of a 12 year old transitioning child

OldCrone · 05/06/2019 10:53

I hope the GMC takes note of Dr Helen Webberley's appearance at that roadshow this weekend.

Do they know about it, or does it need to be reported to them?

ChattyLion · 05/06/2019 13:12

Hey Mole- Webberley situation is a key example of the lack of oversight of private doctors prescribing to kids. We should be able to expect that this is being done appropriately and with evidence behind it. As there is in other areas of healthcare. This is not an exception, much as many would like to claim it is.

Agree about Warnock report type of commission being ideally needed here. That led to new law and regulation in that area. Other regulation has arisen from urgent medical scandals in other areas, but a considered balanced non-politicised approach is likely to be better and less rushed.

In the absence of any government will to appoint a commission on this, I thought a Health and Social Care Select Committee inquiry would focus MPs on the issues at hand.

I still do think that.. but last heard from the Health and Social Care Select Committee were pointing to an adult LGBT healthcare inquiry as a relevant alternative forum,

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/women-and-equalities-committee/news-parliament-2017/lgbt-health-inquiry-launch-17-19/

Problem is though this is a non science and medical focused committee, and not focused on kids, so not right committee to explore all the problems we are raising about kids, the ethics of giving them permanent treatments without evidence and when not offered as research (so the outcomes for the kids need never get published). Plus the lack of private and NHS healthcare provider oversight, and so on. These are health not rights issues.

Totally agree with you that we need to keep plugging at this as a health and lack of regulation issue with Sarah Wollaston MP, Chair at the Health and Social Care select committee, as the unanswered questions keep on mounting up.

Anyone can write to her to encourage the committee to look at this area and copying in your own MP and the Health Secretary may help to raise their awareness too. Smile

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/health-and-social-care-committee/contact-us/

MoleSmokes · 06/06/2019 13:04

@ChattyLion

"In the absence of any government will to appoint a commission on this, I thought a Health and Social Care Select Committee inquiry would focus MPs on the issues at hand.

I still do think that.. but last heard from the Health and Social Care Select Committee were pointing to an adult LGBT healthcare inquiry as a relevant alternative forum,

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/women-and-equalities-committee/news-parliament-2017/lgbt-health-inquiry-launch-17-19/

"Problem is though this is a non science and medical focused committee, and not focused on kids, so not right committee to explore all the problems we are raising about kids, the ethics of giving them permanent treatments without evidence and when not offered as research (so the outcomes for the kids need never get published). Plus the lack of private and NHS healthcare provider oversight, and so on. These are health not rights issues.

Totally agree with you that we need to keep plugging at this as a health and lack of regulation issue with Sarah Wollaston MP, Chair at the Health and Social Care select committee, as the unanswered questions keep on mounting up.

Anyone can write to her to encourage the committee to look at this area and copying in your own MP and the Health Secretary may help to raise their awareness too"

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/health-and-social-care-committee/contact-us/

Thanks @ChattyLion - it is really helpful to know how they are responding - and that they are not "getting it" - so that option can be mentioned and rejected when contacting them, directly or via MPs. It is so easy for them to fob us off with red herrings, even if they do not realise that is what they are doing.

@InsulatedCup and @OldCrone I imagine the GMC would need to be informed in order to know that Dr Helen Webberley is, while suspended, practicing as a Doctor in the UK.

I have archived the Safe Haven page advertising the "GenderGP Roadshow", just in case it "goes missing" archive.fo/OIGpH

This seems relevant:

Sanctions guidance for members of medical practitioners tribunals and for the General Medical Council’s decision makers

MPTS (Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service) and GMC
Fitness to Practise directorate

www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-documents/DC4198_Sanctions_Guidance_May_2017.pdf_73502816.pdf

"91. Suspension has a deterrent effect and can be used to send out a signal to the doctor, the profession and public about what is regarded as behaviour unbefitting a registered doctor. Suspension from the medical register also has a punitive effect, in that it prevents the doctor from practising (and therefore from earning a living as a doctor) during the suspension, although this is not its intention."

"96. The doctor may, however, have contact with patients if supervised by a registered doctor, provided that the patients have been informed of the doctor’s registration status and the events that resulted in the doctor’s registration being suspended, and have given their full consent."

"163 It is important that no doctor is allowed to resume unrestricted practice following a period of conditional registration or suspension unless the tribunal considers that they are safe to do so."

Webberley might argue that the people attending the Road Show are not "patients". My understanding is that "Duty of Care" responsibilities kick in from the first point of contact (for a child that could be with a proxy, eg. parent) and that that would cover any opinion or advice requested by and specific to an individual.

I don't know if the GMC have issued rules, regulations or guidance on this but I seem to remember "media medics" on TV / Radio getting into trouble with the GMC in the past for advice given to members of the public.

The first half of the day sounds like "touting for business" and the second half like a "Multi-Disciplinary Open Clinic" with time for individual consultations aka "informal discussions" :

"The second half of the session will be an experts’ style Q&A with all 3 experts. If you are planning to attend and would like to submit a question in advance please let us know via e-mail to [email protected]

There will then be an opportunity for informal discussions."

IMHO the GMC would likely jump most quickly if approached by parents or individuals considering transition, who are wondering about the wisdom of attending the event. They would potentially receive medical advice and opinion that day, from a doctor the GMC has suspended from medical practice.

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InsulatedCup · 06/06/2019 13:28

I think more likely that the GMC would use her participating in the event as evidence which could be used as an aggravating factor when she applies for the suspension to be lifted.

mement0mori · 07/03/2020 10:44

This seems relevant:
Sanctions guidance for members of medical practitioners tribunals and for the General Medical Council’s decision makers

I know this is an old thread but just to point out that the above guidance is "for use [...] when considering what sanction to impose following a finding that the doctor’s fitness to practise is impaired".

HW is currently subject to an interim order and there is no finding (yet) that there was misconduct or that her fitness to practice is impaired. The relevant guidance would I think be this one:

www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-documents/DC4792_Imposing_Interim_Orders___Guidance_for_the_IOT_and_MPT_28443349.pdf

Test applied
23 The IOT must consider, in accordance with section 41A, whether to impose an interim order. If the IOT is satisfied that:
a in all the circumstances that there may be impairment of the doctor’s fitness to practise which poses a real risk to members of the public, or may adversely affect the public interest or the interests of the practitioner;
and
b after balancing the interests of the doctor and the interests of the public, that an interim order is necessary to guard against such risk,
the appropriate order should be made.

mement0mori · 07/03/2020 10:49

24 In reaching a decision whether to impose an interim order an IOT should consider the following issues:
a The seriousness of risk to members of the public if the doctor continues to hold unrestricted registration. In assessing this risk the IOT should consider the seriousness of the allegations, the weight of the information, including information about the likelihood of a further incident or incidents occurring during the relevant period.
b Whether public confidence in the medical profession is likely to be seriously damaged if the doctor continues to hold unrestricted registration during the relevant period.
c Whether it is in the doctor’s interests to hold unrestricted registration. For example, the doctor may clearly lack insight and need to be protected from him or herself.
25 In weighing up these factors, the IOT must carefully consider the proportionality of their response in dealing with the risk to the public interest (including patient safety and public confidence) and the adverse consequences of any action on the doctor’s own interests.
26 In assessing whether or not it is appropriate to take action, the IOT should consider the seriousness of any police charges and the acceptability of their decision on interim action should the doctor later be convicted or acquitted (including public confidence issues as above).
27 When considering whether or not to make an interim order, the IOT cannot accept any undertakings given by the doctor as it has no power to accept them and they are, in any event, unenforceable.

R0wantrees · 26/07/2021 18:20

current thread
Helem Webberley's substantive case has finally been listed for 26th July 2021

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-helen-webberley-jul-21

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4288795-Helen-Webberley

Bosky · 27/11/2025 13:24

Bumping this thread, which popped up in an internet search when I was looking for a specific bit of info about Helen Webberley.

My reason for bumping is that someone, on one of the current threads about Helen Webberley's various interviews and debates set up to publicise GenderGP's imminent business venture in the USA, suggested that we should "keep track of Helen Webberley" (or words to that effect).

There is a big gap in the record on this thread, from July 2021 to date, during which there have been court cases, tribunals and other "matters of public record".

I don't know if @MoleSmokes or @R0wantrees are still around? If not, maybe others can help to fill in the gap?

In the meantime, the current and recent threads about Helen Webberley's hair-raising, blood-curdling appearances are here:

Helen Webberly Gender GP: RED FLAG
29 March 2025
(Most recent post was in October. Includes lots of info on various Webberley Non-Crime Rant Incidents plus a link to her appearance on "The God Cast" - link below)
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5304082-helen-webberly-gender-gp-red-flag

Dr Helen Webberley - The Hormone Expert - The God Cast Interview with Fr Alex Frost
14 April 2025

Helen Webberley interviewed
17 Nov 2025 (Ben Leo, GB News USA)
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5445637-helen-webberley-interviewed

Webberly Vs Joyce
10 Nov 2025 (Times Radio with Jo Coburn, broadcast 20th November 2025)
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5441964-webberly-vs-joyce

Biology (Bindel) vs Ideology (Webberley) on the Hodge-Cast
20 Nov 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5447409-biology-bindel-vs-ideology-webberley-on-the-hodge-cast

Webberley vs Gold
23 Nov 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5448645-webberley-vs-gold

Andrew Gold Vs Helen Webberly
24 Nov 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5449323-andrew-gold-vs-helen-webberly

Helen Webberley v Robbie Starbuck . . . WOW!! 😂
24 Nov 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5449723-helen-webberley-v-robbie-starbuck-wow

CheeseChamp · 27/11/2025 16:41

Reddit thread from the lovely HW herself https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/PTX4lL8UoF

The comments on this are well worth a read.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 27/11/2025 19:56

CheeseChamp · 27/11/2025 16:41

Reddit thread from the lovely HW herself https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/PTX4lL8UoF

The comments on this are well worth a read.

I note the suggestion that all that is required is 'media training'.

The best rhetoric and most skilful argument style will not ever be able to show that humans have a third sex, or that sex is mutable.

Because the argument is fundamentally and in the most bald and basic way, abject bullshit.

Bosky · 28/11/2025 01:24

ScrimshawTheSecond · 27/11/2025 19:56

I note the suggestion that all that is required is 'media training'.

The best rhetoric and most skilful argument style will not ever be able to show that humans have a third sex, or that sex is mutable.

Because the argument is fundamentally and in the most bald and basic way, abject bullshit.

I note the suggestion that all that is required is 'media training'.

Intriguing how often that comes up in the replies, with the suggestion that the performance of the usual suspects we see being interviewed on TV, podcasts, etc. is after media training!

⚧️ "You are a very good example of why this sub recommends against engaging with the media without media training."

⚧️"Speaking as an ex-client of yours
Please retire, both from "medicine" and public speaking.
Your company is a hollow shell of what it once was, all the good people left or were fired, and you're trying to prop it up with LLMs.
Did you use LLMs to prep for your media debates too?
We appreciate all allies but not all allies are suitable to speak to the media"

⚧️"You on the other hand, are a doctor and a businesswoman. You have no debate training, no media training, you don't know what questions are going to be asked, so you can't really prepare beyond understanding the issues in general.

Watching these videos is like watching a toddler spar with Mike Tyson. You do not stand a chance, and there's really nothing you can do to change that. Worse, when the audience sees someone high profile like you losing in this fight, they don't think "this is unfair because it's a professional Internet troll arguing with a businesswoman without media training"... They think "this woman sounds insane... It just proves what I already believed"

⚧️"she's feeding the transphobic media machine and hurting us all. there's a very good reason why we don't talk to the media without media training and this is a prime example of why. she may think she's trying to defend us, but she is actively harming us with all of this."

There are a few posts lamenting the fact that Webberley did the unthinkable and centred her cis-self on Trans Day of Remembrance (20th Nov apparently), eg.

⚧️"Your 3rd bullet is incorrect - he didn’t say trans men can’t have babies he said men can’t. Please don’t play these silly games of purposely mixing up sex & gender in order to get clicks - it just undermines the credibility of our position and makes us more dismissible."

  1. ⚧️ "Honestly, I think that's her intent these days. Why else would she go on a "debate" hosted by bigot media that was set to air on TDoR?"
  2. ⚧️ "I assume it’s just business driven ?"

Interesting the number of replies criticising Webberley for using AI to create her website and even accusing her of using ChatGPT to inform her unhinged rants during the online debates and interviews.

I would have thought ChatGPT would be rather better informed than Webberley appeared to be. I also didn't realise it had a "Reply like a raving lunatic" prompt.

Just in case that Reddit post disappears into the ether, screenshot attached plus some of the "Best" replies (according to Reddit metrics).

Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Bosky · 28/11/2025 01:50

A couple more screenshots of the "Best" replies to Webberley (according to Reddit), a reply from another thread plus a couple of recent posts commenting on GenderGP's services.

Wondering now if GenderGP is on TrustPilot? 🤔

Webberley having gone all out to publicise GenderGP to the USA, I imagine US regulators and potential customers will be checking out comments on social media and reviews.

Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
Dr Helen and Dr Mike Webberley - matters of public record
ScrimshawTheSecond · 28/11/2025 07:14

Helen haa a team of five PR people. I'm pretty sure she's had 'media training'. It doesn't help.

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