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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Martina Navratilova to front BBC1 transgender athletes doc

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EweSurname · 23/05/2019 15:52

I knew she was making a documentary but I didn't know it was for the BBC. Bit wary now of what she'll be allowed to say.

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The tennis star and gay rights campaigner is to front Brook Lapping’s 60-minute doc Trans Athletes: A Fair Playing Field?, which will air next month.

In February, Navratilova was roundly criticised by trans and equality activists for stating that allowing transgender women to compete in women’s sporting tournaments was “insane and cheating”. She subsequently said she would do more research on the matter.

For the doc, Navratilova will speak with the athletes, scientists and sporting officials at the forefront of the debate, including former Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies, who said in March that transgender athletes could “ruin women’s sport”.

She will also meet trans medical physicist and former runner Joanna Harper, who will explain how her run times dropped by more than 10% following her transition.

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Erythronium · 26/06/2019 21:20

Martina and Sharon are amazing women. Worth watching just to see them.

HollowTalk · 26/06/2019 21:20

So funny how the women are in trousers and the transwomen are wearing skirts.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/06/2019 21:20

My sister is watching it for me. She thinks it’s funny I get pissed off (and Martina is her heroine) but I remind her ‘her sweetie, as a lesbian you do know that they are coming for you?’

HollowTalk · 26/06/2019 21:21

These people they are talking to have not transitioned. It's just crazy to put a skirt on and compete against a woman.

Erythronium · 26/06/2019 21:22

Men really stand differently to women don't they? Nothing to do with this programme obviously.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/06/2019 21:23

So are they going to show all the trans men wiping the floor with males and taking male category prizes and scholarships? Oh hang on... that’ll be no then.

Michelleoftheresistance · 26/06/2019 21:23

Women must put aside their desire to take part in sport on equal terms as a respected sex class in order to soothe the feelings of males unhappy with their sense of identity. Because that's a much bigger issue and more urgent than the impact on women and women's sport.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr. Only if you have a really disrespectful, belittling, misogynistic view of women and think of them as a subclass.

Sharron made good points.

BarrenFieldofFucks · 26/06/2019 21:23

I managed up until now before ranting at dh (who may have peaked when I explained the very basic understanding that I have of queer theory) and switching over. I'll get the highlights later.

Erythronium · 26/06/2019 21:23

When are they going to talk about Fallon Fox?

littlbrowndog · 26/06/2019 21:23

Totally different

RhymesWithOrange · 26/06/2019 21:23

Sharron Davies is beautiful and quite frankly has a body to die for.

littlbrowndog · 26/06/2019 21:24

Yeah it was weird thecwearing of the skirts

Erythronium · 26/06/2019 21:25

Why don't they show the female athletes who miss out on medals or who have to share changing rooms with males, crying?

Fibbke · 26/06/2019 21:25

Who the feck was Ellis Cashman? He was talking absolute bollocks.

CaveMum · 26/06/2019 21:26

I think it’s been good so far, they have to allow the other side to give their arguement or risk being accused of bias, but Martina is calling them out.

And now here comes the science bit...

Whatthefoxgoingon · 26/06/2019 21:27

I wanted to scream at the tv when they equated transphobia now to homophobia decades ago. Fuck off. Homophobia was rife on scale nowhere near to transphobia now. What a way to rewrite history. Angry

Doobigetta · 26/06/2019 21:27

Alison seemed pretty reasonable, but still puts Alison’s hurt genderfeelz in front of the actual unfairness that would be the result for every single woman competing.

Jammerjimmer · 26/06/2019 21:27

Hollow

Do you mean Beth Jones from Nottingham trent university?

Whatthefoxgoingon · 26/06/2019 21:27

Finally the science prof is talking some sense

Unformidable · 26/06/2019 21:27

I wish Martina wouldn’t use “assigned at birth”

WineGummyBear · 26/06/2019 21:28

I think this is giod so far. Martina doesn't need to say much to make her points.

That sociologist will have had everyone shouting at the TV.

And we are on to the science now. Hormones not the only advantage.

bondbaby · 26/06/2019 21:29

Really wish Martina wouldn'tkeep saying 'assigned male/female at birth'. Surely she knows it's ridiculous to suggest that sex is assigned?!

Erythronium · 26/06/2019 21:30

This terfy scientist is going to get a hard time for pointing out the actual physical differences between men and women.

littlbrowndog · 26/06/2019 21:30

No level playing field. At last

Jammerjimmer · 26/06/2019 21:30

Cashmere doesn't care about fairness in sport. Iirc he has in the past said there was no point trying to stop doping so they should just let all athletes do it.

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