Network Autism thinks gender id develops in foetus (title edited by MNHQ)

[NellieEllie]

This is profoundly disturbing. mobile.twitter.com/networkautism/status/1129320893208047616

I am autistic and the complete opposite of demi sexual. I find it very easy to be attracted physically to someone - it's emotions I find difficult 😉

www.kingwood.org.uk/free-training

I think I'll give that a miss having watched the first minute of the first video. The lady speaking is "an expert on puberty having (myself) gone straight from puberty to midlife crisis" She then goes on to give us some facts about the changes that occur at puberty.

"Children grow and put on weight"
Doh!

"They lose up to 30% of their bone density"
What???????

I also think some of the stuff about testosterone in utero is not really relevant. Everyone has aspects that may be considered more “masculine” or “feminine”. Sometimes, this is in looks, body shape, character. The point is, if you are a more “masculine” woman, that is absolutely fine, you are still a woman. I’ve have always felt like I don’t fit into groups of women. I tend to feel clumsy, I’ve always had an abruptness and assertiveness that I know is not seen as “feminine”. So do lots of women.

You know, the trouble is people start expecting perfection, and solutions to all their problems. A LOT of people feel that they don’t “fit in”. For a whole host of reasons. Sometimes, that’s just how it is. You find a few friends who you have things in common with. You get the confidence to be the person you are, and that’s fine. You get on with life, you become interested in the world, rather than dwelling on your own identity.

There are 3 words on the gender equipment slide that are the absolute truth from the person who produced these slides

"I don't think"

The rest is mostly a load of bollocks confirming those 3 words.

"They lose up to 30% of their bone density"

When they come out with something as clearly wrong as this, how can you trust anything else they say?

So autism advisors are flapping around, they don't know why the sudden increase of gender incongruence (especially in the girls they are helping). They are reading off the internet, they are doing their own "research". They are jumping to conclusions. Teachers aren't trained for this. They aren't. I've been speaking to a friend in exactly this line of work and is worries me all the more.

This needs a scientific medical lead. Where's that * enquiry?

No. They're not.

I've seen worrying conversation in online fb groups such as Twinkl with teachers asking each other for ideas, tips, where to find out more, sharing what they do.

That's how teachers often work. More so in the absence of the current government's idea to be less restrictive on content.

Sen schools make their own content more than most.

I've worked both with people with ASD and people in psychiatric care, and the desire to pathologise anything that falls outside of the very narrow margin of acceptable human behaviour has constantly shocked me. I've never worked in a school that wasn't desperate to break and remould their ASD students into their neurotypical ideal. They painted it like they just wanted them to learn coping strategies for social integration, but it was all bollocks. Why does a child with ASD need to sit in that exact spot on the carpet to learn? Why do they need to rote learn their spellings if that's not the best strategy for them? Nobody ever wanted to consider that maybe they just needed a differentiated curriculum and reasonable adjustments and then to be allowed to be themselves, it was always about forcing them to conform to the neurotypical model. The embodiment of the "judging a fish by it's ability to climb a tree" phrase. Kids go to school to learn, not to become clones of one another - there's no excuse in 2019 for neurodiversity to still be treated like a disease that needs curing. I saw the same thing in medicine, I saw so many women being assessed for things like Borderline when actually many of them just had personality traits which didn't fit the female socialisation ideal (i.e. kind, inclusive, happy to perform emotional labour and put their own needs last). The bottom line is that neurodiverse people are still considered incorrectly human and required to change, and GNC girls are still considered incorrectly female and required to change. Diagnosing gender identity disorder in neurodiverse GNC girls is the cross section of those 2 things - the eye of the storm for social intolerance to "incorrect" behaviour. The fact that society would rather try and break the laws of material reality rather than simply accept that the spectrum of normal human behaviour is a little broader than we thought, shows how deep the roots of this mess really go. And yet we are the one's being accused of promoting conversion therapy - for just wanting people to be accepted and celebrated for who they are. It's utterly mind blowing.

Hear hear bygrab 👏

Difference seems to need to be put in a box to be accepted.

the desire to pathologise anything that falls outside of the very narrow margin of acceptable human behaviour has constantly shocked me

Hear, hear from me too. I've just said similar on the Fawcett thread.

The fact that society would rather try and break the laws of material reality rather than simply accept that the spectrum of normal human behaviour is a little broader than we thought, shows how deep the roots of this mess really go

There is nothing to be gained from acceptance whereas demand is created once something is pathologised.

Pharmaceuticals, psychiatry and psychology are all huge industries.

NAS conference was supposedly a conference to educate professionals. It was utterly unprofessional, contained numerous falsehoods and was utterly shocking. The person responsible is Carol Povey of NAS centre for autism who has done the tweets out saying how wonderful it is