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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sara Pascoe on The Guilty Feminist

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buttyblahblah · 16/05/2019 21:54

Sara Pascoe has drunk the Kool Aid. Her bit on the Guilty Feminist about how weird cis women are scared of trans women sharing a bathroom with other women.

Long bit about how amazing it is that there are so many sexes, not just a binary, and all of this on a podcast about women in science.

I can only dip into the podcast as discussed in a previous thread Deborah Frances-White enraged me with her TWAW themes.

The first part of the podcast is really good though, talking to two, award winning women in STEM.

guiltyfeminist.com/episode/?episode=189

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Ereshkigal · 17/05/2019 15:52

KR already got a stick on twatter for being a transphobe

Why, what has she said?

nauticant · 17/05/2019 15:52

Maybe some in the celeb, acting, comedy worlds actually believe that TWAW but I think there are many who know it's cobblers but go along with it to raise their progressive status in order to help their career.

I think that's worse than actually believing TWAW.

Goosefoot · 17/05/2019 16:24

True. This new breed of observational comedians are the opposite of observant. They think they are championing something progressive and making fun of ignorant people. It would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.

I have noticed this with a lot of the popular American comedians. The joke seems to be to just mock people who think the wrong things, or mock Trump's hair or something. It's just like "And they believe that, can you believe it?" and you are supposed to laugh.

It's very weird to me. Political humour can be hilarious, but they don't seem to be even making a joke.

Outofinspiration · 17/05/2019 16:46

Oh this thread reminds me I really need unsubscribe from The Guilty Feminist.

Sara Pascoe was on 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown and she came across as a total bore.

'Weird' indeed..... Fuck off Sara.

Outofinspiration · 17/05/2019 16:48

I would also like Sara to answer the question of when a 'transwoman' comes out of the High risk category of male and into the low risk category of female. Given that 98% of sexual crime is carried out by males. At what point of 'transition' does that happen?

Doobigetta · 17/05/2019 17:35

K Ryan doesn’t look very GC to me

mobile.twitter.com/kathbum/status/1048513277549051909?lang=en

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 17/05/2019 17:59

K Ryan doesn’t look very GC to me

mobile.twitter.com/kathbum/status/1048513277549051909?lang=en

Ah, who needs reasoned argument when typing it in capitals makes it true.

LizzieSiddal · 17/05/2019 18:08

I've felt guilty every time I've seen her on anything, for not finding her funny. Thought it was my female conditioning kicking in, the bias that says 'women aren't funny'.

Same here! But then I think of people like Jennifer Saunders, Jo Brand and Jenny Eclair, get them on everything and we could at least laugh. Sara Pascoe is just not funny.

Jenny Eclair has complained that she’s never invited to appear on shows. Why not I wonder?

ThePurportedDoctoress · 17/05/2019 18:25

Well, in all honesty, how can you actually make women being uncomfortable with men in their toilets funny if the women are the butt of your joke? Bernard Bresslaw in a 60's nurse outfit being chased out of a female space is operating on assumptions about him being seen as a dodgy perv, not the women being stupid for objecting.

Quite. FFS, we live in a world where men can win women's business awards by femme-ing up on Thursdays and Fridays, where individuals with an unhealthy interest in sanpro can loiter in women's toilets because everyone now has to assume that he's a woman, and cotton ceiling is a thing - and comedians take the piss out of women?
It's embarrassing.

Outanabout · 17/05/2019 18:46

I'm so upset to see that about Katherine Ryan 😥 FFS, you'd think anyone with a functioning brain knows that human beings can't change sex. My opinion of anyone who spouts such nonsense plummets 😥 They either know it's nonsense and are complete hypocrites, or they're deeply stupid.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 17/05/2019 18:59

Oh well. Sad

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 17/05/2019 19:04

That was the transphobe thing - obviously over nothing. So clearly even the sympathisers can get accused of not toeing the line 😂

Sara Pascoe on The Guilty Feminist
Ereshkigal · 18/05/2019 09:07

Of course they can. And they get slapped down for the slightest error or poor choice of wording pour encourager les autres.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 18/05/2019 10:32

Katherine Ryan was something like Hooters employee of the year, and as far as I know is still really happy with what the company does. There will be many things she and I disagree about. I still think she's really funny though.

And if she truly believes that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, I'll eat my woolly hat.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 19/05/2019 10:44

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fleabag-star-i-wanted-to-be-a-boy-26tmzpqxs?shareToken=34593a35257e921569757f6b24703430

This sounds hopeful - and it resonates so much with me; I wasn't so young but as teenager I definitely wanted to be a boy and if anyone offered to me I would have either taken it or at least really considered.

AlwaysComingHome · 19/05/2019 10:51

I LOVE Katherine Ryan. Now there is a funny comedian

Didn’t she open the all woman episode of 8 Out of 10 Cats with some snarky comment about them all being ‘cis-gendered’ or was that someone else?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 19/05/2019 10:56

oh yeah, I think she cis'd the hell out of it. disappointing. doesn't mean she doesn't make me laugh though

Freespeecher · 19/05/2019 12:36

I seem to remember an interview with Pascoe in which she said she got in to comedy in order to be able to talk about topics she wanted to talk about (which kind of explains why she's nowhere near as funny as Katherine Ryan).

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