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Woman attacks woman with a hammer

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2019 22:42

There was thread on this a few days ago but I can't find it, has it been zapped?
A poster correctly pointed out that the woman looked like a trans woman and that poster was correct in her assessment but the media and police are reporting it as two women involved in an incident.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/woman-attacks-people-hammer-outside-16254501.amp

mobile.twitter.com/JarvisBoatOwner/status/1127919685121585153

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/05/2019 22:45

Woman. What is ‘woman’?

andyoldlabour · 15/05/2019 22:51

Thank God for transcrime, because the press never tell it is it is.

transcrimeuk.com/2019/05/12/carol-lea/

Why is this total struggle to report TRUE news still going on?

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2019 22:54

Lord I'm not sure?
But the lady who used the hammer to attack the woman could probably tell you, as they trained Merseyside Police on equality and diversity a few years ago.

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thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 15/05/2019 23:01

Thank God for transcrime, because the press never tell it is it is.

I agree. Pissed off but not surprised.

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2019 23:08

Fermatsthanks for the link but the one I was thinking of is gone..

Woman attacks woman with a hammer
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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2019 23:10

Curious but I don't want to speculate OK why the thread was wiped.

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2019 23:11

*on why

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NotTerfNorCis · 15/05/2019 23:30

I'll repeat what I said on the other thread. Transwomen shouldn't be described as women. They are as separate and distinct from women as men are. Describing them as women without qualification is a lie.

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2019 23:33

andyoldlabour Why is this total struggle to report TRUE news still going on?
Someone replied to Merseyside police on twitter saying:
Why are transgender women reported as "women" when suspects or criminals, but when victims they are correctly identified as a transgender women? I am a women and this gross, calculated misrepresentation of my sex is offensive, misleading and discriminatory.
I think this is a very accurate statement about how the media are reporting these crimes.

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StrangeLookingParasite · 15/05/2019 23:34

I thought that looked like mâle pattern baldness.

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/05/2019 23:51

It looked like male pattern anger too.

TheRedBarrows · 16/05/2019 00:15

Good question in the Transcrime comments: why are trans women called women when they are the perpetrators of crime but Transwomen when they talk about themselves as the victims of crime?

Carrol Lea looks drunk, walking round to the other side of the car.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/05/2019 07:36

We need to correctly label criminals and those who act in such a way (for I AMA sure this person will get a hot sweet cup of tea and a lift home) by sex and gender (if you really must). This will show clearly if there are any patterns here.

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/05/2019 08:58

The police have had their behinds handed to them on Twitter by the general public demonstrating that the emperor needs to go and put some bloody clothes on.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/05/2019 08:59

Even clothed we all know they aren’t an Empress.

Annasgirl · 16/05/2019 09:19

This is so weird. I was on the thread about the Labour Party person resigning and I read a reference to a crime committed by a transperson. They were described as a woman. I wanted to ask why transpeople are described as women when they are biologically (i.e. chromosomally) male (XY). But I came on here instead.

I really think we need to campaign for this - this person was not a woman and they should not be described as women in crime stats. Wow, in a few years I will have to read research by woke academics wondering at the incredible rise in violent crime by women !!!

Why are we being denied the truth? We really need to ask this and see who benefits and how they have managed to turn a whole society.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 16/05/2019 09:21

The way they had the young woman round the neck with the hammer held at her face was shocking. Then kept after her trying to get in the door.

Everyone can see it for exactly what it is. Except Merseyside police of course.

littlbrowndog · 16/05/2019 09:42

I think the justice minister in Scotland was asked about recording crimes as your gender identity and didn’t he see a problem

He didn’t see a problem but if there was a spike in sex crimes committed by women then he might look at it 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Completely bonkers

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/05/2019 10:19

little It's scary, are we to belive now that women are committing more crimes... What is the point of having any stats about male/female crime. Surely there must be some adults in the police force who don't think this is OK?

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/05/2019 10:54

It’s all to make women feel unsafe (and absolutely not listened to) - a great way to keep the little ladies in their place (barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen) so that the boys can play.

Confusedandlostagain · 16/05/2019 11:14

This makes statistics useless and I’m shocked that those in parliament sees no problems with recording gender rather than sex. I feel we are going backwards. Also why did they attack the woman as I think it was the male who was driving. It seems to be its a power play for them and they get off on it.

MsMcWibble · 16/05/2019 11:30

In the extended video of the incident the person is shown wrenching the door of the car open and seems to be beating the young girl who is trapped inside the car.
The police are apparently only prosecuting for threatening behaviour. I don't get it. Or do I?

OvertheInfluence · 16/05/2019 11:49

Yep, I posted this before and nearly linked to the LinkedIn profile but didn't want to look like I was speculating only for the thread to be deleted as it was speculatory!

Even in cases of ongoing police investigations I cant see why we aren't allowed to discuss news reports and recognising an assailant as Male isn't endangering any cases. Its bloody obvious.

We shouldn't be silenced for recognising Male patterned violence.