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Teeside University survey on sex and gender in sport - hopelessly invalid in structure

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stumbledin · 04/05/2019 23:49

Its another of those surely this is a spoof, but apparently this is a serious survey.

If conflates sex and gender, it talks about cisgender, it seems to think sportswomen objecting to trans women in female sports are doing this based on cultural attitudes.

There's no enough space on the survey to give all criticisms, so I used the location question.

How is it possible that Universities aren't embarrassed to have invalid surveys circulated in their name.

If you want a good laugh - or cry - or feel you could help educate the researcher the link to the survey is teesside.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/transgender-and-sport

They also dont seem to have implemented the settings to stop people filling it in more than once.

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Chaotica · 05/05/2019 18:40

Just filled it in. WTF. A 5 year old could design a better survey. I totally agree that they will skew the results to claim massive transphobia rather than massive legal and justified opposition from female athletes and their supporters.

jay55 · 05/05/2019 19:41

Having a question about Mouncey made me feel quite angry.

FannyCann · 05/05/2019 19:44

Having a question about Mouncey made me feel quite angry.

It's quite bizarre to name specific people in a survey like this. I'm not sure it's in at all ethical for one thing to draw attention to a particular person. Besides, many people may not know who the person is. Says all you need to know about the validity of this "research" really.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 19:45

Besides, many people may not know who the person is.

Exactly. This is literally the worst survey I’ve ever seen.

stumbledin · 05/05/2019 23:36

Just to say sorry for the terrible typos in my follow up post. Too late at night to be typing.

But also thanks to MNHQ for not moving it to surveys. I think it is really important that we publicly challenge totally unprofessional, biased surveys. It wasn't that long ago that there was that on funded by the ESRC (a 6 figure amount) also on gender which was blatantly rigged.

Maybe we can agree something in a post title to show it is about challenging the design of a survey rather than just asking MNers to sign a petition. For instance "Dodgy Data Alert" or something!

And build up knowledge on how to report, eg funders, University Committees or whatever.

This one really is so shoddy. Almost a spoof.

Or we could have a chart listing for worst surveys ever!

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bestbefore · 05/05/2019 23:46

Awful survey - I had a 20 year career in market research and it's terrible - not least for the leading questions and the tech fact that for q2 you can tick yes and no ConfusedConfusedConfused

BeansandRice · 06/05/2019 19:39

Well, I've filled it in. Rather badly designed & it wouldn't get through my university's Ethics committee.

And not only badly designed - inaccurate in asking for "gender" rather than sex. The really useful information they could get from asking for peoples sex, then asking for gender identification, with the possibility of being sex = female; gender identification = none.

siglingor · 06/05/2019 20:24

The TRAs don't like it either mobile.twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1125456642961752064

FannyCann · 06/05/2019 22:33

Oh. It's a transphobic study? I obviously misunderstood. Hmm

NotTerfNorCis · 06/05/2019 22:50

Why on earth do they think it's transphobic? Because it allows any dissent from their doctrine?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/05/2019 05:32

Ha!
The TRAs are in meltdown about it.

We agree it's a truly terrible survey!!

They mainly got a bit stuck and repeated their prayer. TWAW. TWAW. TWAW. If in doubt, chant.

Teeside University survey on sex and gender in sport - hopelessly invalid in structure
Teeside University survey on sex and gender in sport - hopelessly invalid in structure
KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/05/2019 05:41

I think it's transphobic because you could agree or disagree in your answers.

Hannah Mouncy is brave and stunning?
Do you agree?
Tick one:
Yes
Yes most definitely

Etc

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/05/2019 05:42

^ if they'd written it like that the TRAs would have been fine with it

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/05/2019 07:11

No, wait, this charmer just wrote "Fuck t*rfs" for every response. Still, that is another chant.

Teeside University survey on sex and gender in sport - hopelessly invalid in structure
KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/05/2019 07:13

And this totally balanced individual is going to attack the wrong university about the survey.

Totally not batshit. Honest Guv

Teeside University survey on sex and gender in sport - hopelessly invalid in structure
Teeside University survey on sex and gender in sport - hopelessly invalid in structure
TimeLady · 07/05/2019 07:16

Ha ha, the survey is now 'closed'

teesside.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/transgender-and-sport

KatvonHostileExtremist · 07/05/2019 08:40
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I wonder who was behind it and what they were trying to prove. I bet the results are a laugh actually. Certainly an excellent example of how not to do a survey.

worstofbothworlds · 07/05/2019 09:28

I didn't realise it was written by an academic, I thought it was by a student.

I thought this too, though mind you one of my fellow PhD students when I was doing mine had a supervisor who used to turn out the worst back-of-an-envelope surveys ever which were clearly designed to produce exactly the result he wanted. She had to lick them into shape most of the time.

worstofbothworlds · 07/05/2019 09:30

Katvon

It's funny how you can tell the young teenagers pretending to be adults when they say it was a "teacher" who put the survey up.

BeansandRice · 07/05/2019 16:06

In another place - not gender critical - this is being discussed as a piece of "transphobic" research - interesting difference of response. Either way, a rather badly designed survey ...

worstofbothworlds · 07/05/2019 19:34

Mumsnetters: hmm, this says that transwomen might be allowed to compete as women, no, that's not right.

TRAs: hmm, this says that transwomen might not be accepted IN EVERY PARTICULAR as actual women. Bigots!

AnyOldPrion · 07/05/2019 22:28

”Ha ha, the survey is now 'closed'”

Oh dear. Did we break it?

What a pity, how sad!

OwnerOfThatChocolateBar · 07/05/2019 22:39

TEESSIDE not TEESIDE!!

NotTerfNorCis · 07/05/2019 22:51

This is a great video that tells the story of the girls forced to compete against biological males.

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