Shaun Dellenty - the 'new' Andrew Moffatt

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I've recently come across this author/speaker:

shaundellenty.com/

www.<a class="break-all" href="https://amazon.co.uk/Celebrating-Difference-Shaun-Dellenty/dp/1472961501/ref=nodl_?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-womens-rights-3576819-Shaun-Dellenty-the-new-Andrew-Moffatt" rel="nofollow" target="blank">amazon.co.uk/Celebrating-Difference-Shaun-Dellenty/dp/1472961501/ref=nodl

Like Andrew Moffatt, he is a gay man and (I believe) a former educator.

He goes into schools to talk about his book/LGBT inclusion and has an upcoming webinar for teachers via the National College.

His book is also endorsed by Peter Tatchell and Michael Cashman. The latter has recently tweeted out about Dellenty's book.

Is anybody familiar with him? Do we know if this inclusion supports girls/young lesbians?

After Andrew Moffatt's take on the EA and the questions around his work (great article via Transgendertrend) I find myself questionning any of the males going into schools to talk about inclusion, based on their experience as a homosexual man.

When I think about it, it only seems to be males or gay males influencing schools.
I've witnessed in my niece's school, in a privileged area, as the wealthy head boy is treated like a God, seemingly just because he is gay. Meanwhile, a friend's lesbian daughter is convinced she's trans now and a straight male.

Back to Dellenty - It may be this book and author do prioritise young girls and lesbians, but I am curious to find out more as I am hearing Dellenty's names and tweets crop up more and more in education.

www.tes.com/news/sex-scandal-took-shine-sparklebox

This was around 10 years ago now. It's beginning to be distant past and easily pre many middle management teachers' training.

I started this thread but I think it got lost. Survey within re SRE.

To be clear, SRE must include homophobia in age appropriate ways. Trans and gender must be discussed too I feel at secondary level as they will be talking about it, but it needs such carefully chosen words and resources.

The survey I link in that thread asks if teachers feel able to deliver the SRE statutory guidance.

To Shauns credit, he apparently says, ask an expert.

Who is an expert?

Survey on RSE by NEU and NSPCC www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3576251-survey-on-rse-by-neu-and-nspcc

My son's male headteacher believes that Stonewall are the 'experts' He also champions them because of the positive articles in 'Schools Week' and won't give TransgenderTrend the time of day because of the negative articles in 'Schools Week'.
I have challenged this, to no avail.

The school leaders I work with (I am not a leader) also think Andrew Moffatt is the 'go to' authority on all matters surrounding inclusivity.

No doubt Shaun is highly regarded.

The other issue is that the current draft SRE guidance mentions the EA many times.

The (green paper?) report that gathered info to create the draft doesn't mention the EA nor T once I noticed. It mentioned homophobia a lot, and consent.

This is potentially for the Andrew Moffat thread (I think I did point this out) but as he specifically mentions the EA, I can't help thinking a PSE lead in primary or ks2/3 (middle schools) may spend £25 of the budget on the book and resources in order to "tick the boxes" of the EA parts of the SRE. I know I would have done in the past.

(I think Michael Rosen complained about the way Ruth Miskin's Read Write ink programme somehow appeared to be promoted in the phonics or literacy curriculum a while ago. It shouldn't happen but it depends who / what the writers of the curriculum have consulted.)

researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN06103

Green paper? Anyway this doesn't mention the word trans anywhere at all.

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06103/SN06103.pdf

Having said that, on page 12 it's explicit that the EA includes religion as a protected characteristic.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/781150/DrafttguidanceRelationshipssEducationRelationshipssandSexxEducationRSEanddHealthEducation2.pdf

Teaching guidance on LGBT relationships too unclear, say heads www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48098020

The conference motion for "a more robust and legally enforceable policy and support for schools as they carry out their public sector equality duty", was carried unanimously.

Encouraging

I missed this conversation last week, sorry, and am interested in any more information on sex education in schools, and examples of "inclusivity"
I wrote the piece on Transgender Trend about Andrew Moffatt and feel there is lots more work to be done in this area

@Quietlife333 Do people know if it’s possible to ask for your child to be removed from classes which have dodgy inclusion ethics that don’t actually support women and girls?

I would also like to know if you can still legally pull your kids out of the sex ed lessons if you think they are being conducted by dodgy organisations, or the teachers have been trained by these groups

If anybody has experience of removing their child from rse in mainstream education it would be really interesting to hear how it went.

Mad
Thank you. That was a superb article.
My child's secondary school is a Stonewall Champion school and the 'teaching' is slipped through under PSHE. They do a stealth job of lumping it in with the LGB education.

Shaun Dellenty's book is being heavily promoted right now using a quote from Tatchell. From Peter's files.

Fuck Hands.

I have no other words!

Gads sorry, I mean Shaun's book is being promoted nationwide by publishers using Tatchell's words.
It makes my skin crawl.

Still same response from me! Yes it's sick. Memories are short.

Yes, thank you so much for this well researched article Mad.

I'm linking this thread here

Has anyone seen the Diversity Role Models Schools pack? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383894-has-anyone-seen-the-diversity-role-models-schools-pack

And this too: (but know very little about it. Just some spidey senses...)

www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/carnegie-school-of-education/research/centre-for-lgbtq-inclusion-in-education/

Leeds Carnegie School of Education is pretty much a standard academic 'gender identity' department with links to Sally Hines, the Leeds prof who is leading a huge research project on trans lives today. Thanks for the links to Diversity Role Models. It seems anyone can set up and offer 'inclusive training' these days. By inclusive they usually mean not protective of women and girls.

I think all of this is just endemic in schools now. Only one of my kids went to school, for a few years, and I was fairly blasé about it all at first - but they were spending all kinds of time talking about inclusion, diversity, empowerment. It was also shallow, it had to be the right kind of diversity to get a mention. Conservative religious minorities, absolutely were not included in "good diversity" (unless people were campaigning for refugees, who presumably are meant to give up their diverse beliefs once the got here.)
I want kids to respect everyone in the school, whether they agree with what they think or do, or what they "are". But I didn't agree with everything they were telling these kids was healthy diversity, and I know lots of other parents didn't either - not always the same things I had a problem with.

Essentially the message was not, think about what is right and wrong at a deep level, but respect all other people even if they disagree with you about serious things. It was accept what we tell you is right and wrong, don't think about it too much, and people who don't agree with all that are a problem.

Thanks for the links.
It is endemic and I guess we each have to chip away at our own children's schools, those we work at/with or become governors ourselves.

It's hard to keep on top of. Just today I read on Twitter how Twitter's Katie Minshall (from the Joanna Cherry court case) was at an event at Birmingham with safeguarding leads.

It just makes me want to remove my lot from these classes. I don’t know how I would go about that or if the school would argue that the classes are compulsory. I think the first thing I would do would be to ask for a copy of all guidance is they use for phse and see what comes from there.

My child's at secondary and would not want to be removed, so it's difficult as they get older. At primary school (where No Outsiders is taught) this would be easier.

Re No Outsiders; Although we were invited to view my child's year group books I was not allowed to see the teaching lesson plans in the book. And I was also asking as a teacher. I felt a level of anxiety from the head when I pressed her.