I've lost my daughter to trans activism

[slipperywhensparticus]

First year at uni and she is lost

I've known she is a lesbian for ages it doesn't bother me

She now believes Julia long is violent aggressive and deserves to be forcibly removed for thinking about asking questions

Men are allowed to be women if that's how they feel

Biology is not reality

The female brain is real

Karen white is a rare example and it was only once it's not enough to get worked up about

She considers herself part of the trans community despite considering herself female

She believes women can have penises

Fucks sake I hate this she isnt even bothered about sharing toilets and changing rooms with men

I'm giving up why should I fight when my only reason to protect women's spaces isnt bothered fuck it all

She is a decent human being never said she wasnt 🤷‍♀️

Slippery, I can feel your desperation and my heart goes out to you -- it would be a nightmare for me too.
I was reading these stories similar to yours this morning and I don't think this link has been posted here yet. It's a US based site where parents of ROGD children, mostly girls, communicate and share their stories. Every one is heartbreaking but I think there is strength in numbers -- even if it is US based.
www.parentsofrogdkids.com/

Slippery - I reckon most mothers empathise with you. It's always hard when our children take paths that we don't agree with. But I'm a great believer in 'watchful waiting'. We all know that what we think / believe in our late teens and twenties changes - it's only in the trans world that children are fixed in one belief for ever. And she's more likely to let a current belief slip away when reality strikes if she's not got caught up in a family battle about it.
Keep talking on here as so many of us have been where you are.

Thanks for the support I needed to talk on here to stop myself talking to her it wouldn't have done any good I get her point I really do her friend is trans she is nothing like the headlines I hope she is one of the good ones who does believe in a third space (as she alluded to with prisons her friends dont believe they should be locked up with women if they are sex offenders ) but she still has swallowed a lot of the chat about it all

I'm inclined to support the suggestions about avoiding conflict and agreeing to differ. We all believed stuff when we were kids, that we grew out of. You could mention that lesbians need allies and are being targeted as bigoted because if not wanting to have sex with "male bodied trans lesbians" (can't get my head around all the ways that makes no sense) I think the TRA movement is being funded by big Pharma... Read Sheila Jeffries. But I believe it's been so successful at brainwashing young people in particular, partially because it's men wanting things that women have. Fought so many battles in the 70s and it seems we have to fight then again and again, with each generation... With a bit extra added.

I made a decision not to get wound up about my kid's views. My mother used to roll her eyes and shrug at some of the rubbish I used to spout. Not taking it seriously, if you can, might be the way to go.

We have to appreciate that it is so much harder for young people to be GC at University. No one wants to stand out at that age - it is much easier to accept the dogma and be part of the crowd. Disagreeing would be punished by ex communication by the people they want to be their friends. I've seen it with a relative who works in the arts. She is instinctively GC but has managed to square the circle so as to survive in her field. She can't afford to be shunned or tossed out.

When sector leaders of all kinds are reluctant to speak out we can't blame the children. The consequence for dissent is huge!

You can be genuinely interested in her view and find out more about it. Does she also support trans age, trans race and trans ableism? Should somebody who identified as disabled receive disability benefits? Does she think anorexia should also be treated with affirmation?

Tell her your trans race. Assuming you’re white, That you really feel you’re black because you love watermelon and just have a general black sense. Will she support your demand, for your IDs to be changed saying you’re black? To have your birth certificate changed to say zimbabwe and gain your birth right to citizenship? Will she support you in skin pigmentation alteration? That you’d like to gain awards, funding etc for black people overcoming barriers they’ve faced due to race. Or if you’re black, lots of horrible stereotypes about Asians too. Whichever suits.
Just as horrible, just as offensive, just as a valid argument.

she will come through eventually but it may take years, the grooming at uni is immense

Our local Youth Pride was online this year and I decided to check it out.

Nearly all of it was about being trans, including a 12 year old local girl who was put on puberty blockers after being told they're completely reversible.

It's relentless and soul-destroying. I could weep for those kids.

They're being brainwashed and nothing we say or do seems to make a difference.

I'm so sorry about what's happening to your daughter. We should be rioting in the streets.

Anecdotally seems to be young women who are much more supportive of this than young men. Or maybe that's just my firmly common sense science based lads who have no truck with it at all.

It's the be kind socialisation at work. Fingers crossed, she has enough critical thinking to make her way through eventually.

Maybe steer her to Magdalene Burns YouTube videos?

This thread was started over a year ago.
@slipperywhensparticus how is it going?

How dare your daughter have her own opinions on things