I just got back that feminists are being seen as hysterical women just like suffragettes were and wont achieve anything
There are some parallels in the manner in which women are being smeared, silenced etc.
Perhaps if people understood better about how women achieved the vote despite all the barriers, pressures, violence & attempts at control they might feel more admiration for those women who were also deliberately labelled as 'hysterical'.
There are a number of Dr Julia Long's speeches available.
recently at Haringey Resisters:
Dr Julia Long's speech (WNTT Speakers' Corner event 2017) with feminist analysis about the history and importance of women being able to name men as men, identify male behaviours and patriarchal power is available & worth reading in full as many TRAs & allies have seen a small clip deliberately cut & widely distributed with commentary:
pastebin.com/nGwr3i4U
transcribed by PencilsinSpace who was there and explained:
"It was a bit like in the emperor's new clothes when the little boy cries out 'but he hasn't got anything on!' - everybody's thinking it, everybody knows it, but nobody's dared to say it. So of course it's shocking when someone finally dares.
Julia's talk was all about the importance of being able to name a man as a man. It's about shedding light on the situation we find ourselves in, which can only be done if we can name men as men."
Dr Julia Long (transcribed):
(small extract & speech worth reading in full)
"So I just wanted to start with that simple act of naming because that's the sort of thing that we're not supposed to do. (continues)
We're also told, and I think these are things we really need to think about, when we're told that by simply naming a man as a man that we are making young people kill themselves. Because that is some of the worst emotional blackmail that I have heard, but for any of us who work in the women's sector and have heard the way that abusive men try to control their partners, then threats to kill themselves come as no surprise. But this has taken on a bit of a different slant because we are being told that if we name men as men, if we assert our right to name reality, that we are contributing to children's suicide, is a particularly pernicious rhetorical strategy and manipulative rhetorical strategy of transgender activists, so I think we need to really think about what's going on when they do that. And similarly, in terms of you're killing transwomen, who are women, not men etcetera.
So we're subjected to all of this kind of thing, we're also subjected to this kind of thing, as I said they often get called TERFs, transphobes etc. This is just - I mean these are a bit old now so there's been plenty more since these appeared online. But this kind of imagery here, 'Have it TERFs' with a huge man wielding an axe, about to chop this woman into bits by the look of it.
But we are told that we are violent and we are using hate speech and that we are responsible for deaths when the amount of rhetorical violence, hate speech and threats that come from transgender activists is really ... really ... you need a strong stomach to read some of this stuff. This quote here is about how we need to have our throats slit one by one etc.
So it really is quite indistinguishable from the kinds of online misogyny we see from the old-fashioned kind of men who wear trousers, it doesn't look really very different XXXXXX [redacted for MN guidelines]
Thread following the forcible removal of lesbians & other women by male security guards & police from Accenture's 'inclusive' LGBT+ event has further links:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3539529-Lesbians-removed-from-Accenture-inclusive-trans-event-by-7-police-officers