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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Actress feted for play celebrating her bravery in staying with her paedophile husband

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OrchidInTheSun · 19/04/2019 12:12

This is sickening: www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/theater/maddie-corman-accidentally-brave.html

There's another interview in the Times too. All about how awful it's been for her and zero concern for the children who were raped for her husband's sexual pleasure.

Ben Stiller is gushing on twitter.

Grim.

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LassOfFyvie · 19/04/2019 21:26

It's really quite sad isn't it? Internalized misogyny to a point where a woman feels she has no value unless there is a man walking in front of her... leading the way and parsing out the woman's allowed thoughts/behaviors. I don't think the women who exist this way have any understanding of what they have succumbed to because they chose their indoctrination or were indoctrinated before they had a chance to make that choice

No. It is not sad for that reason. This woman is an adult making her own choices. She is furthering her career because of this. There's always someone comes along making excuses, no matter how badly a woman has behaved.

Graphista · 19/04/2019 21:31

Completely and utterly disgraceful!

Wtaf the likes of mariska and Ben are thinking by aligning themselves with these disgusting people?!

Judging by the responses on Twitter though they could well have shot themselves in the foot in terms of loads of people vilifying them for this and saying they'll never watch their work again.

But honestly it's getting to the point what/who can we watch?!

If actors, directors etc aren't offenders themselves then they're supporting these creeps!

We NEED to do what we can to hit em where it hurts - in the box office!

Stop watching & buying the shows and films not only the perpetrators profit from but their sympathisers too AND tell them, the studios etc who employ and support them that we are doing this and why.

I have never and will never watch anything relating to Polanski, woody Alan etc I've contacted several radio stations regarding the playing of Michael Jacksons music and I turn off if it comes on and again would never buy it.

It may seem a small action but if enough of us do it, it will affect profits and if for no other reason than they're losing money as a result then these disgusting perverts will find it harder to find employment.

We have to stand by OUR Convictions too.

Moralitym1n1 · 19/04/2019 22:07

They are both trying to position themselves as victims of pornography

So did Ted Bundy.

Also the implication he was abused himself is an older than the pyramids line abusers use. Funny his lots of victims of abuse don't abuse children when they grow up, because they don't want anyone to suffer what they did and are decent people.

Moralitym1n1 · 19/04/2019 22:08

*how

Graphista · 19/04/2019 22:27

Yea the abused becoming an abuser bollocks is mostly debunked now.

It's no excuse! Even IF it's true (which I'm deeply sceptical of and certainly doesn't excuse her actions!)

I'd also like to know wtf the producers, backstage workers and theatre where this is being performed were thinking in agreeing to be involved!

StopThePlanet · 20/04/2019 01:36

Lass

No. It is not sad for that reason. This woman is an adult making her own choices. She is furthering her career because of this. There's always someone comes along making excuses, no matter how badly a woman has behaved.

I'm in agreement with you - I wasn't making excuses for her. If you read my preceding post I think you would get my meaning. My apologies if I was not clear.

She has no recourse, no excuse, no way to talk her way out of it.

Quoting my preceding post to that which you responded for clarification, [h]ow can people make excuses for this situation? What is wrong with people? No one cares that these little girls' lives may have been ruined by this abuse and now videos of them being sexually abused circulate on the web.

Maddie and Jace don't deserve empathy or sympathy or concern. Maddie isn't fit to be a parent - shown by keeping her children in the same home as a pedophile. Jace should be in prison and should never have contact with children not even his own children unless supervised (not by Maddie) but by a court-appointed chaperone.

My point in stating [i]t's really quite sad isn't it? ... was more of a general statement in relation to women with internalized misogyny feeling they are worthless without a man leading (I know some - I love them but their outlook makes my brain bleed).

I wasn't referring specifically to Maddie but to women with those perspectives in general. Reading back I wasn't very clear... about generalizing or my tone. Sometimes I forget that I am crazy animated - you can't see or hear my snarkiness (I am a very physical expresser and speak out loud while writing posts with all the flair Blush). And now I realize my snarkiness was kind of asshole-ish and didn't read as intended. My apologies. I meant what I said but I didn't communicate effectively via text and should have left out the leading sad comment. If anything I should have checked my snark as it is my responsibility to help women of the aforementioned perspective to see the light not to denigrate them. Bad feminist, ^^

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 09:06

I’m amazed that she think that it’s her and her children who are the victims of this crime.

No acknowledgement at all of the sexually abused children in the images her husband ‘enjoyed’, just self pity that she now has to rent because her husband is on the sex offenders register (and presumably no average thinking human one wants him living next door).

Fuck me.

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 11:16

Thanks, StopThePlanet noted.

Betty from what I have read about her there has been a bit of a backlash but rather than giving her pause for thought the backlash is simply more pain for her to be a victim and to be brave about.

nauticant · 20/04/2019 12:28

Let's be honest, show business is all about supporting people in show business. If they are rapists, paedophiles, whatever, then if they are helping to keep the gravy train on the rails, it doesn't matter so long as they get don't get caught.

It seems that anyone inside the bubble can have their values corrupted so much that they will actually support paedophilia apologists. Without spending a moment thinking about what that means. The thinking seems to stop completely at "do I stand to gain here?"

Have a look at this echo chamber about the performance:

twitter.com/TeaLeoni/status/1113825908752834561

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 13:46

Fucking hell.

Donating all the profits to charities supporting victims of trafficking and childhood sexual abuse is the only thing that might make this shitshow palatable.

I wonder how much it costs and if we can start a campaign to get people to donate the ticket price to a suitable charity?

Her husband wanked off to images of child rape, FFS!

brizzlemint · 20/04/2019 13:50

They are both despicable. Not only is she standing by him but she's cashing in on it as well.

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 13:53

To quote the fabulous Monica Dolan on W1A, I'm not trying to be funny or anything..., but how the hell does Tea Leonie and her kind square this support with supporting "#me too"?

I'm assuming, without checking, that Leonie will have tweeted in support of #me too , and no doubt has also bathed in the warm bath of virtue signalling of denouncing Trump for his sexist attitudes and behaviour.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 14:01

Tickets range from 55-100 US dollars.

Looking up charities now, anyone got any ideas?

Preferably something NY based that helps sexually abused/trafficked children (and adult survivors?) worldwide.

(Found one that looks pretty good but is focussed on foreign born adult women trafficked into the US - saving it for future reference: restorenyc.org/services)

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 14:08

On the Tea Leonie pile of drivel

Grumpy Scottish Wifie@caf_abz
Man watches & shares child porn ie film of children being raped. Wife stays with him, endangering their own kids,thenprofits from those poor abused kids. Absolutely vile. The raped kids are the brave ones, not this paedo apologist

Is Grumpy Scottish Wifie someone from here? I actually hope not as I hope as many people as possible are seeing and condemning this.

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 14:17

Téa Leonie is a board member of US UNICEF.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 14:17

Comments on the Mail Online:

‘Great news kids! I stayed married so you could grow up with a pedo in the home!’

‘I could not, under ANY circumstances, continue to live with a man who derives pleasure from watching innocent children be sexually abused by adults.’

‘So she puts on a play about it to propel her fame,make money, and publicize how hard it is for her.Poor her. And she stays so her children can be exposed to that creep. She is terrible as well.’

(Advance warning - Some descriptions of the images in the article text)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6931529/Actress-reveals-criticism-standing-Law-Order-director-husband-child-porn-arrest.html

Worth remembering next time anyone feels the need to apologise for sharing a DM link - DM readers call people out for profiting from child sexual abuse, while NY Times readers bought tickets.

Namenic · 20/04/2019 14:31

Human stories are interesting even if they involve people who have done horrible things. I haven’t seen/read the play but i’m Guessing it doesn’t give much from the view of the abused victims.

There are also films about gangsters and murderers who have destroyed many lives. Perhaps they too are unbalanced in terms of their victims’ perspective. Though it doesn’t necessarily mean the stories devoid of value.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 14:34

Films/books are written about all sorts of horrible crimes, this is true.

It’s not usual for the perpetrator’s family to make a profit from them, however.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/04/2019 14:44

Paedophile and apologist wife.

Usually found frequenting prison. Since the sexualisation and abuse of children is wrong in every sense and against the law.

Unless ACTORS then they are stunning and brave?

Don't think so. These people are sociopathic.

Poor kids.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/04/2019 14:46

Profiteering is a pejorative term for the act of making a profit by methods considered unethical.

Sarahjconnor · 20/04/2019 15:25

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Graphista · 20/04/2019 15:44

Considering this is happening in New York why isn't the son of Sam law being applied? I highly doubt his wife profiting from his crime means he isn't benefiting too!

Really appalling to see who is supporting them.

Graphista · 20/04/2019 15:46

Mind you saying that I'm still utterly shocked and disappointed he didn't get a custodial sentence!

Wtf are the legal system in New York playing at not dealing with these idiots?!

HermioneWeasley · 20/04/2019 16:03

Disgusting. These people are appalling and disgusting. The only brave ones are the poor children.

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 20/04/2019 16:07

Christ but that is one fucked up article. I agree with everything the rest of you have said but something that jumped out at me were the descriptions of her, variously, being barefoot and sitting cross-legged on a bed. These set her up as some kind of childlike innocent, a flower child questing for truth if you will. Rather than a middle aged woman condoning a paedophile. Also contrasts horrifically with the actual innocent victims, the raped and brutalised children and the horror experienced by families robbed of their children taken so that men like him can sit in air conditioned mansions wanking while their wives write shows about it. It's fucked up, no doubt about it.

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