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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Uniex toilets , who likes them ?

95 replies

daisy64 · 14/04/2019 18:08

As much as I feel that women deserve equal rights I really cant stand going into a public loo after a strange man comes out , how do you feel ?

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Antibles · 16/04/2019 10:24

We have unisex individual enclosed toilets at my place of work and cubicle-style single sex toilets . It works fine. The unisex loos are always very clean.

I hate mixed sex cubicle-style toilets. Who on earth actually prefers using them?

Antibles · 16/04/2019 10:41

Kneel I think in another generation the young woke women, kind but naive, who are saying they 'don't mind' these toilets will have nearly all experienced or heard about someone they know experiencing something sexually unpleasant in a mixed toilet and will start to say "Hey, maybe it's about time we campaigned for single sex toilets"...

Luckily for them, we are here now and trying to fight for single sex to remain so.

Antibles · 16/04/2019 10:44

Molten that sound awful.

NoNewsisGood · 16/04/2019 11:07

I don't mind ones that open out to a corridor or somewhere more open, but sad to see that a public building recently built near us only has unisex loos. They put two lots next to each other, but they are marked just with 'WC' so suspect original plan was men and women and then they decided just make them all unisex. That is damn right confusing for everyone as they hesitantly open a door, see a man/woman in there and then go and try the other one instead. Then they get confused.
I refuse to use one of them as they are down a darker corridor and then you go thru a door and then there are the cubicles with shared wash basins. It's not often busy, so am not keen to use those ones where there are two doors between me and rest of the world. Also, yes, men are messy in the loo! Considering what women have to do in the loo (3 holes!) on a regular basis and then dealing with pregnancy, post childbirth (extra issues) and often taking kids to the loo as well it is a wonder than women's loos are so clean, but they are!
I do think above is correct - we are the ones usually cleaning them in the homes so we're more thoughtful about making a mess. Also astounds me when I'm carrying two bags and DH wants to give me a bag he's carrying to go to the loo alone/with DS when I'm going to the loo as well. I don't get how he thinks in any world will my experience be easier with 3 bags compared with his ability to pee holding just the one (shoulder bag/rucksack too !). His excuse is that he may need '2 hands' as if I manage to somehow pee miraculously not using any hands at all.....

MoltenLasagne · 16/04/2019 11:07

It was not pleasant, and of course the men knew that they could be very intimidating without ever crossing a line.

You couldn’t very well go to the administrators and complain about a man standing slightly too close and looking slightly too long.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 16/04/2019 12:33

men say the same thing about women's toilets, I think it's the difference in phemerones.

Intersting, have never heard a bloke say this but it does make sense. All I can smell in womens loos generally is perfume and soap. Unless someones done a gigantic shite.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 16/04/2019 12:35

Also, I don't get why mixed sex areas are called unisex..surely uni = single?! So unisex should be whats used to mean single sex loos..

FeministCat · 16/04/2019 12:36

I don't get how he thinks in any world will my experience be easier with 3 bags compared with his ability to pee holding just the one (shoulder bag/rucksack too !). His excuse is that he may need '2 hands' as if I manage to somehow pee miraculously not using any hands at all.....

You mean you don’t have the ability to unzip and pull down pants/pull up a skirt, hold a cubicle door with a broken lock closed while sitting to pee, fish out some TP from the near empty roll jammed up inside the holder, wipe, either push the flush with a foot or side step to see if it will trigger, maneuver past the line of waiting women to jjam up to an available sink, then realize it was available as the sensor is broken or water pressure off, then move up to paper towel/air dryer, waving your elbow to get it to dispense, all while balancing three bags delicately on your head? Amateur! (Kidding. I hope you give your DH a very blank look when he asks you to hold another bag in the future.

S1naidSucks · 16/04/2019 12:37

All I can smell in womens loos generally is perfume and soap. Unless someones done a gigantic shite.

My middle boy looked at me in disbelief when I said that most women I know (yes I’ve had this discussion with friends) prefer not to poo in public toilets. Men seem happy to shit no matter who’s with them.

MenuPlant · 16/04/2019 12:43

Oh weird. I've found it the other way around.

That women are more pragmatic about where to go and partly cause we need a poo, do a poo, end of story.

While men seem territortial or something and prefer to crap on home turf and take 16 hours about it!

No-one wants to shit in a filthy bog with no loo paper that's a given!

MenuPlant · 16/04/2019 12:46

I was at work once and this woman we worked with came back from the loo and said OMG some disgusting person has done a poo in there I could smell it!!! And started ranting on about how thoughtless and gross it was to shit other than at home.

Me and the other women (it was an all female office) were exchanging that sort of "she's completely mad" eye contact thing. I could see one of them nearly wanting to say... but... surely the toilet is the correct place to do a poo???

Anyway no-one agreed with her and we all stood around and looked aghast and in the end she decided that maybe the perpetrator was ill Grin

Point is no-one would have said "well I crap in the bog what are you on about" as she would have seen them as "disgusting" but we were all quietly boggling at each other Grin

MoleSmokes · 16/04/2019 12:52

At work in small buildings run by NHS and the voluntary sector, I was OK with unisex toilets. I hate and will not use public unisex toilets. I will use the "Disabled Loo" instead. I do not have any "problem" doing this. It is not the same as parking in a designated "Disabled Bay" - I have NEVER exited to find anyone waiting to enter.

There are times in my life, not going into medical history, when I have needed to use the Disabled Loo. Having one of those "hidden disabilities" I got used then to being verbally abused by ignorant onlookers for using the Disabled Loo. It was mortifying and publicly humiliating to be "shamed" like that and unwilling to "answer back" without discussing medical details in public with complete strangers. Those experiences hardened me to any kick-back. Ironically, it only ever happened when I had legitimate cause to use a "Disabled Loo".

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 16/04/2019 13:23

My middle boy looked at me in disbelief when I said that most women I know (yes I’ve had this discussion with friends) prefer not to poo in public toilets.

I have issues with this. I have no idea why as a loo is there for that very reason, but if I need a poo I usually try to hold it in til I am home. Obviously its not always possible but thats what I usually do. Also rather childish, I put loo roll into the loo before I do one, so noone hears. Its ridiculous really and I have no idea why I do this Confused

Natsku · 16/04/2019 13:51

Since my second child I've lost the ability to hold it so I poo anywhere there's a loo!

BarbarianMum · 16/04/2019 14:48

I've always found them fine and preferably to a lot of dirty, smelly female only toilets I could name.

S1naidSucks · 16/04/2019 14:52

preferably to a lot of dirty, smelly female only toilets I could name.

So, do they magically get cleaner when men and women share?

BarbarianMum · 16/04/2019 17:24

It seems so - at least in my limited experience. Or possibly they are cleaned more frequently.

BarbarianMum · 16/04/2019 17:25

Or possibly their design helps to keep them clean?

BubblegumFactory · 16/04/2019 17:57

I work in a school and we have had new buildings over the last few years. They seem to prefer the ‘unisex’ and open corridor loo thing. I’m told it’s to cut down on vandalism and it has to be said that school children can cause hugely expensive damage behind closed doors. It’s shocking what little shits they can be.
However, I hate the concept. I suspect it’s men who make these decisions without any real inkling of women’s needs.
Pretty sure that women’s movements have been deliberately regulated historically purely by men not providing adequate facilities. It’s akways been a standing joke hasn’t it that women have to queue for ages for the loo and men just nip in and out. You see it at football matches, theatres etc. Places designed by men with no consideration for women’s needs. And it now continues with this ‘unisex’ bog thing.

Nothankyounotforme · 28/04/2019 10:13

@ MenuPlant Definitely other way around. I am public loo phobic but partner is not. My Mum is a cleaner and has said while she is cleaning toilet blocks men will just walk in do a huge crap (grunting and groaning and all) with no qualms whatsoever. Most men are disgusting in toilets.

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