Uniex toilets , who likes them ?

[daisy64]

As much as I feel that women deserve equal rights I really cant stand going into a public loo after a strange man comes out , how do you feel ?

It's indirect discrimination.

Their pee is the last of my worries, it's them jerking off on the seat or toilet paper in the hope that a woman is next in there, and planting hidden cameras to record us (which they could share or sell on the internet too). It's being a confined space where men can be near the door and can easily push his way inside with the woman/girl when she is leaving or going in.

Some men wipe their snot on the walls as well as being incapable of flushing.

At a festival last year where one cabin held 6 cubicles for women and the other side held 6 'unisex cubicles', then a separate cabin with a urinal for 18 and 4 cubicles for men.
All the women queued for the women's cubicles (except the end one as there was a significant gap to the 'unisex' one next door).
A few men and teens used the unisex ones.
Men mostly used the mens ones.
So 50% of us on that campsite using 5/34 of the facility. And not one woman complained.

Single contained room, fine. However I suspect more cleaners would need to be employed if more unisex loos were available, as god knows why but the stench of man piss is so much worse than womens from my experience

it totally depends on the environment. Small village café with only one loo. Fine. My particular work place with only 2 loos and a small friendly staff. Fine. At the train station or the public loos in town - I cant see that I would ever go to a unisex one as I avoid these anyway but would make even more effort to do so. I might possibly go with a group of girls for safety I guess.

Loos don't bother me. I have used single sex loos that were utterly vile and filthy and disgusting. So loos don't bother me.

Refuges bother me, sexual assault centres bother me. Loos are nothing in comparison.

Refuges bother me, sexual assault centres bother me. Loos are nothing in comparison.

Mixed sex loos mean that abusive men can follow women straight into them. Do you not remember ever going into the women’s toilets to escape a creepy or pushy Male, when you were out at a night club? Young women no longer have that option. They really were considered a ‘safe space’, long before the ‘woke’ started using that term. In a women’s only loo, a man will get called out if he tried to follow a woman into a toilet.

There has been an increase in voyeurism and sexual assaults on women and children in toilets and changing rooms since the increase in mixed sex usage. For those who believe it’s ‘just a toilet’, it’s more that that. It’s the first step in eradicating women’s spaces. It started as ‘only a toilet’ and has already progressed to ‘it’s only a changing room’.

Muna what about schools?

I think it's awful expecting girls to deal with first periods with boys outside, it was bad enough when it was girls outside! And they aren't necessarily being remodelled -

In public venues they have gone to "men" and "any gender" so this increases queues for women while men still have their own. That can't be right.

They are in DD’s school. Only half of them have sanitary bins so all the girls use them but the boys go wherever. DD and her friends have told me that they don’t drink before or during school so that they don’t need to use them. DD came home from school the other day though and said they’ve put stickers on the doors saying male and female, but they’ve put the male stickers on the cubicles that have all the sanitary bins in so the females don’t have any

I have used single sex loos that were utterly vile and filthy and disgusting. So loos don't bother me.

That makes sense.

(Or does it?)

jasper makes sense the girls move the sanitary bins or point this out to someone?

Horrible. I have stopped going to our local bar because last time I went in the unisex toilets the floor and seat were covered in piss. It stank too. I dropped my phone on the floor and it was covered in sticky stale piss when I picked it up same at some petrol stations. I refuse to stop at ones with a unisex toilet, they're always foul. God knows what some blokes do in there.

It depends how well designed and maintained they are really. My worst ever public loo experience was in a women's only toilet where someone had thoughtfully spread shit everywhere and I put my hand right in it.
Thegoalls men say the same thing about women's toilets, I think it's the difference in phemerones.
Let's face it though, most people of both sexes prefer same sex toilets.

As I said ^^ . I don’t think it’s normal. It didn’t feel normal. The bin was outside the cubicle and I could have been walking out with anything in my hand.
The man bardged in and didn’t ask or speak to me to see if it was ok. Sharing a sink with a man in a unisex cubicle wasn’t ok.

Nope. Last one I used - well we into and left quickly - has shit speared over the walls. It was as if someone had exploded a chocolate mousse but I won’t even try to describe the smell.

They had them in the last two places I worked (self contained ones, not rows of cubicles), first one it was mostly women working there so it was alright and they were kept spotlessly clean, second one was usually alright but sometimes it reeked and I only think a cleaner came once a week.

They have them in DD's school (again, self contained ones) and I had to use one at the parents evening and it reeked, urgh.

Had to use one again today. This time there was piss all over the floor in front of the toilet. Absolutely disgusting. Never seen anything like that in a women's toilet. It was in a newly built building so they could have designed the toilets any way they wanted, but their solution was a row of single cubicle unisex toilets with washbasins in each one This is a place where lots of parents take their children. I wouldn't want to have to deal with a pre-schooler or a baby in a disgusting place like that.

Not I and not my daughter and her friends at school who are being forced to use unisex toilets with urine all over the toilet and floor. The girls avoid drinking water so they can avoid using the toilet after first lesson. I really do not like unisex toilets, in saying that though, my very clean male partner doesn't like using male toilets either.

@MenuPlant

100% agree!

Your post really wasn't that long. I mean have you seen my posts? lol

We have self-contained unisex toilets at my work and at my gym. The work ones are okay most of the time - we are a small office and there are only three toilets so I think it keeps everyone honest. Sometimes though visitors really make a mess of them (one man seemed to purposely come to our office daily to do his business and leave a mess...until we banned him from the premises...). The ones at my gym can get really gross I notice and I am under no illusions as to why - I see piss on the floor a foot away from toilet bowl: that’s not from a woman hovering.

Still, prefer them to mixed sex toilets with shared sink facilities for example, especially conscious after this after I had a mishap with my cup today when it slipped my grasp and though yikes, if at 40 and after ten years I can still have a messy mishap I really feel for teenage girls being forced to share their toilets with teenage boys.

*after ten years of using cup

I hate how this has suddenly become a thing.

This last few months Ive neciunteredthis at a modern NT place, a newish services and a senior school.

Its horrid. Has trans ideology honesty led us to this? Does noone with any clout mind?? Im scared in another generation people wont know any different.

The unisex toilets in the cafes, university and offices that I have been in have all been fine, sometimes some water near the sink. Seat often left up. Sometimes a paper towel carelessly discarded. But almost never disgusting. They're a lot better than the single-sex public toilets or single-sex toilets I go in bars (which often tend to be covered in pee, toilets blocked, etc.) and no worse than the single-sex toilets in the supermarket. They're all self-contained, normally handicap accessible unisex loos though. I like them. They tend to be a bit bigger and there's no unequal queuing for the women's. I wouldn't be at all happy with unisex stall type arrangements, though and I think it's horrendous girls in some schools are expected to put up with shared sinks.

Must be horrid for young girls dealing with their first periods if they have to share sinks with the boys. I use a cup so if I need to use a public toilet when I'm on my period I always go for one with a sink in the cubicle because even after years of using one I still always get blood on my hands (plus of course I want to rinse it out), luckily most public toilets here have at least one cubicle with a sink in to power a bidet.

I hate mixed sex toilets. At my university in France they opened a new literature building with only mixed sex toilets. Despite being a majority female department, the toilets were never free of blokes standing just a little bit too close so you had to ask them to move to get out (I was never sure if they were literature students or just there for the fun.)

It was so intimidating I stopped using them in the first term and went to the nearby science block. By spring they were de facto male toilets. Girls who used them risked sexual assault and the (apparently typical French) response when that happened was “well what did she expect?”