Hayden and their latest case

[Amalfimamma]

So this is the latest message to intimidate after their idea to compile a list of gc women

No Hollywood ‘heartthrob’ and smaller rodents. I assume it was a daft joke that got well out of hand.

Ricky Gere.

"In the Cold War. MAD (mutually assured destruction) kept the peace. Using tactical nuclear weapons arguably leads to a strategic attack (unless cooler heads prevail). Some argue that an exchange of tactical nukes can send a clear message."

What on earth??

If that's meant to be an analogy for the Mumsnet Court order thing, then I think Steph must be delusional.

Although - ball is quite clearly in Steph's court now. Bit of an anticlimax I imagine.

Because talking about WMD and mutual destruction is completely stable and balanced behaviour.

Mutual destruction is also an interesting turn of phrase. Why does our Steph believe that they will be destroyed and thus want to destroy someone else in turn.

Deeply unsettling, however all in plain sight.

In the light of recent events, and as this thread is almost full,I'd suggest no longer giving this the oxygen of publicity, lest certain allegations become self fulfilling.

I think that's a great idea, Tinsel. Let's not start a thread 2. Grey rock.

MNHQ - I do congratulate you on your grey rock approach - the email was perfect.

Agree with Tinsel. Whilst it has been very entertaining reading, there is an undercurrent of out of control behaviour.

Best left alone to fight their own shadow.

Can someone copy the email to the thread or link to it, please?

Dear Ms Hayden

Here are the details we hold of the poster ALittleHelp18 as requested by Court Order.

[MailOnline has seen, but is not publishing, the supplied user details]

As you know we continue to moderate Mumsnet with regard to our Talk Guidelines which are designed to promote civility, whilst allowing a space for diverse opinion and debate. We also keep a close eye on our obligations under the Defamation Act.

We've been giving some thought to your own status as a Mumsnet user following your suspension last week for misleading and inflammatory behaviour.

Whilst we are instinctively against censorship, we do periodically find it necessary to rescind the membership of those who seem unable to accept our moderation rules and/or whose sole aim in visiting Mumsnet is to promote a single issue in a deliberately inflammatory way.

Ultimately our aim is to make parents' lives easier. On a daily basis we have hundreds of thousands of parents using Mumsnet's free forums for advice and support, often with regard to extremely difficult life situations such as serious illness, bereavement, living with disabilities, or domestic violence.

We believe Mumsnet offers an extremely valuable resource for those users and frankly we are keen to be able to focus our moderation resource on serving their needs rather than dealing with the problems caused by inflammatory trolls.

We will of course continue to moderate Mumsnet closely and to remove sweeping or derogatory generalisations about any minority group including trans people, as well as posts which break the law.

And you are more than welcome to email us a link to any post that you believe transgresses our guidelines - we will always look at it in a timely fashion, and remove it if we agree with your assessment.

Best regards and go well,

Thanks Zebra! 'Inflammatory troll' indeed.

That letter is a thing of beauty.

Agree re no thread two.

Grey rock indeed.

I know we said we'd grey rock, but a parting thought.

For months now, Steph has been hyping up their legal battle with MN. Now it's over and they've been left looking exceptionally foolish.

This war-games stuff is nothing more that the old like playing chess with a pigeon analogy. Knocks all the pieces over, shits all over the board then struts about triumphantly puffing its chest out and claiming its won.

‘When nuclear-armed nations face off, the threat of mutually assured destruction is expected to keep the worst from happening. But is this a rational strategy? Or is it one that is doomed to failure? In this eye-opening and powerful talk, Commander Robert Green shares his experience piloting nuclear-armed aircraft -- and his shift to becoming a staunch opponent of nuclear deterrence.’

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nH6xkjMNdnk

‘I realised that this would be a suicide mission’

Yes to grey rock etc but my parting thought is that the fragrant one has to be a double agent for GC feminism. There’s no way that DM article can do anything but peak trans all readers. No one could be so deluded as to think it was a good article for Steph. Well played! Thanks!

Zebrasarebras is a belting name.

This war-games stuff

I'm finding it terribly confusing. Hayden seems to be saying that they are expecting MN to go after them for defamation?

Hayden seems to be implying that they are in a Mexican stand-off with mumsnet, due to them both having too much to lose, and therefore each able to hold the other ransom in perpetuity.

Mumsnet is obviously something that Hayden thinks about continuously. I suspect Hayden makes nary a dent in the consciousness of mumsnet. I mean, they are running a multi-million pound business of 14 million members, after all.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so delusional.

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