Hayden and their latest case

[Amalfimamma]

So this is the latest message to intimidate after their idea to compile a list of gc women

Curious - how would this even work if we all used that bit above the text box to be a person for a post. There could be a de facto arsehole name...

Fair point, nauticant. I think it’s always useful to reflect on what people think the end outcome will be, and how that influences how they play the game.

I think there’s also something about losing battles to win wars, and how some people aren’t ever able to understand that tactic. It’s a particular weakness in the hostile forms of transactivism, who seem to have a will to “win” that persists even when it patently damages their cause.

Am awaiting @MNHQ response to this

SophoclesTheFox: yes, I think a long-term strategy needs to consider the impact of the Streisand Effect. Especially since the Streisand Effect is on our side.

Did you not see www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3554306-Hayden-and-their-latest-case?msgid=86196483 Whereareyouspot?

I thought SH was a woman. But using the law to control women is a very male behaviour. Curious.

I enjoyed the video in the Daily Mail.

Spoke volumes.

I enjoyed the video in the Daily Mail. Spoke volumes.

Didn't it just? The DM have a knack of selecting just the right visuals to illustrate the message they want to convey in their articles in a passive aggressive way.

Thanks think I will deregister as can't risk it really can't.

I name change often though.

Anyone got a share token for the article in the Times, this morning:
*Mumsnet ordered to reveal name of user in trans row" ?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-ordered-to-reveal-name-of-user-in-row-with-trans-activist-stephanie-hayden-rzmvl2q8z

I liked the way that the Daily Mail deliberately inserted their previous story (which caused much outrage) into the middle of this new story.

The press, eh?

A law unto themselves.

This is the first I've heard of this, must be living under a rock, but what the hell is wrong with the mug.

Oh, I posted.... how do I get Mumsnet to delete?

Is that Stephanie in the video of the news clip in the middle of that DM article?!!! I've not seen Stephanie 'in real life', as it were, before....

This is the kind of thing the Daily Mail loves - silly women on Mumsnet spatting with the transgenderererers.

That video is worth a thousand words.

Seems a bit exaggerated to describe this "wins a high court battle" in the Daily Mail headline Considering neither MN or the subject contested

That video is worth a thousand words

Indeed. It is important that transwomen like Hayden are given both television and radio time, as it really helps get the message out.

I'd love to see Hayden on the telly. Let's hope Loose Women or This Morning send an invite soon

Or Strictly ...or Dancing on Ice.

Well, it has worked on me, I detest the idea of entering into an online row with someone over whether the rights of transpeople trump natal females. I have been put off commenting on Twitter and on Mumsnet and giving voice to my genuine concerns about the silencing of women, ergo I have been silenced for fear that a few heartfelt comments might bring the police to my door or have my name the subject of a court order. How depressing.

Yes, this is the effect of TRAs like Steph threatening women with court action or police - the silencing of women on social media and in public.

Steph is trying to make out that Steph's cause is "to stop transphobic abuse on Mumsnet" - but it's not that. There is no transphobic abuse on Mumsnet - any actual abuse (of anyone) is deleted, because it's against the guidelines.

This is personal to Steph - about Steph trying to leave a unsavoury past behind with a name & gender change.

Interesting use of disabelist language by referring to people here as 'nutters'.

Also interesting that this is a common tactic that men use to smear women.