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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Update: identifying as non-binary for work award

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Somerville1234 · 03/04/2019 02:02

Can't find the old thread... but anyway, there's an award/opportunity at work, only for people who are LGBT+++. I don't remember all the categories but they included genderqueer, genderfluid and genderfree. Also K, which I'm reliably informed stands for kink lifestyle. I don't understand why someone would need a special thing at work for getting off on weeing and whips (?? I don't watch porn, I don't have a clue), but maybe I'm just old fashioned. Anyway, old fashioned or not, I'm gender free because I don't believe in gender. And I wanted the professional opportunity. (Forgive me for the vagueness - being careful because of doxxing.) And you lot were encouraging...

I ended up applying - which didn't involve saying how I met the criteria, just ticking that I did. And then I was perpexedly approached by my woke boss.
(WB "Erm... so you realise that this is for LGBT+++ employees, Somer?"
S "Yes."
WB "Erm...it was my understanding you're a straight woman...?"
S "I'm genderfree and-"
WB: "Really?"
S "Yes, and I think I need to remind you that the staff handbook recommends that no-one should assume anybody elses's gender."
WB: "Oh, terribly sorry about that.")

I then had a lovely meeting with HR where they were very keen to update my pronouns on the system. I told them that being gender free I require the box beside gender to be left empty, but that I can accept female pronouns because that's my biological sex. They were happy with this novel idea Smile and to learn more about the difference between sex and gender. They young HR person didn't know they're not synonyms but he learns something new every day apparently.

And now... I've heard I'm shortlisted for the next round!
It's been announced to the whole company, and I've had a few bemused looks but no direct transphobia, I'm happy to report. Smile
My longsuffering DH (works in same field) has been teased a bit for my gender identity but he's happy to suffer for the sake of my fight for equality. Smile

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 03/04/2019 08:23

I have GOT to try that next time HR do a demographics survey.

zanahoria · 03/04/2019 08:23

So sad that the gender fairy forgot you, must make you the most marginalized and oppresssed person in the world, ever.

DocusDiplo · 03/04/2019 08:28

Read this thread. Made me very happy. You lot are my people. Went on Spotify and Tge Kinks are first recommended band. Conspiracy?
Well done OP, lots of kudos!

aposterhasnoname · 03/04/2019 08:29

This is brilliant, well done OP.

sackrifice · 03/04/2019 08:29

It’s nice to see inclusion of kink in a company award

It is? Is it?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/04/2019 08:31

No. Because if they win we would have to ask... and I really wouldn’t want to know. Maybe the Kindees don’t want the world to know their kink (unless that is the kink?).

HR are obviously not busy enough.

SecondRow · 03/04/2019 08:33

When will you find out who you're up against in the next round, Somerville?

Or is it everybody has won, and all must have prizes! That would be more inclusive, right?

LangCleg · 03/04/2019 08:34

Somerville!!!

Welcome back! I remember your thread!

And....

I LOVE YOU!

wrathofVitriolKlop · 03/04/2019 08:36

Genderfree
Yay Smile
Well done Somer.
That's exactly the terminology we need.

I'll add it to my lexicon and use it on all forms that dare to mention gender not sex.

LGBTQKP
Gender free
Gender free
I am gender free.
I'll be singing this all day Grin

Skyzalimit · 03/04/2019 08:38

Gross.

This is worse than Rachel Dolezal because your intention is to disrupt equalities activities.

Do you really think it's feminist to undermine the rights of lesbian women?

EmpressLesbianInChair · 03/04/2019 08:41

Do you really think it's feminist to undermine the rights of lesbian women?

Speaking as a lesbian woman, my rights are being undermined by men who claim my identity & attack me & my sisters for not being sexually interested in them. Not by Somerville.

SophoclesTheFox · 03/04/2019 08:41

If you do get to the next round, or even win, you should definitely decline your prize on the basis that the concept of winning reinforces Cisheteronormativity.

They will explode in a self contradictory puff of unicorn breath and rainbows. It would be checkwoke. Totally epic Grin

EmpressLesbianInChair · 03/04/2019 08:43

And the book character Somerville takes her name from was ABSOLUTELY non binary! Dressed up as a boy & everything!

FrancisCrawford · 03/04/2019 08:44

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SophoclesTheFox · 03/04/2019 08:44

Op gas been very clear that she is gender free, sky. That is a legitimate category in this event that the op meets the criteria of.

It’s not her fault that the categories are so inclusive as to be utterly meaningless and therefore useless in promoting any kind of diversity agenda.

2cats2many · 03/04/2019 08:44

😂😂 Brilliant!

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/04/2019 08:44

sky

So you are saying that even though the OP falls under the LGBT umbrella she shouldnt be allowed to go for the award?

That umbrella is massive, it really is....there is an F for friends and family (which i know wouldnt be included for awards etc) just about everyone on the planet is probably under the umbrella, which is nice

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/04/2019 08:45

Does this mean that in the current climate we can all turn up to work dressed like Lady Gaga or Elton John and say it’s our gender identiteeeee?

truthisarevolutionaryact · 03/04/2019 08:45

They will explode in a self contradictory puff of unicorn breath and rainbows. It would be checkwoke

This ...

wrathofVitriolKlop · 03/04/2019 08:45

because your intention is to disrupt equalities activities

Errr no,
The only people who disrupt equalities activities are MEN.

LordWheresMyShoes · 03/04/2019 08:46

I'm bi and kink. I don't believe either of these things should be any business of my employer and I certainly don't want a workplace award to take either into account.

Not in the slightest bit offended by "weeing and whips" either. We're going to be here all day if you want to separate out all the different kinks... and ps porn is only linked to kink in the same way that prostitution is linked to wholesome married lovemaking. It might look similar on the surface but it's a poor way of judging what's going on in the other

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/04/2019 08:47

Under rainbows? Billy goats and trolls? Leprechauns and fairies.

Leprechaun
Goats, Billy
Troll
Queens
Kings

Oh my god we’ve been getting this all wrong?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/04/2019 08:48

Oooh i was so long typing that sophocles managed to say the same thing without all the babbling i did

aposterhasnoname · 03/04/2019 08:48

This is worse than Rachel Dolezal because your intention is to disrupt equalities activities.

Do you really think it's feminist to undermine the rights of lesbian women?

Are you implying that the OP has falsified her gender identity in order to benefit from something? That never happens so you can relax.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 03/04/2019 08:48

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