Caroline Farrow Support Thread

[GeordieGenes]

Caroline, I am honestly almost in tears looking at your Twitter feed tonight.

Her kids have been doxxed by the good doctor.

She is continuing to receive harassment from TRAs. Someone has just sent a pizza to her house.

We all need to get behind her. They think she's a weaker target because of her Catholic views, I'm sure. Let's get on Twitter and report everyone that is sending her abuse.

@MNHQ for keeping this thread up

I know this is crazy but I am actually too frightened to go to the police and can’t face going through it all again.

I’ve been so many times over the past few years with the same group of people, whom Stephanie is defending, and they just never do anything and blame me.

I will continue if you DONT go to the police. And if DO go to the police it will be an ordeal, but it will be on record even if they do nothing. This is important.

This won't stop. That's how this works.

Go to the press again. That's also a good way to make the police pay attention.

See a solicitor.

This is not OK and you are going to be forever looking over your shoulder otherwise.

Caro - at the very least, please ensure you document this harassment.

Get screenshots. Collect it all, every last bit.

Steph, if documents are in the public domain and are a matter of public record (such as reported court proceedings) how can someone sue another person for them being posted on a public forum? Genuinely interested in what case could be made?

Obviously it's unpleasant to have these things brought into the light again, especially years later, but is it illegal?

You can’t successfully sue someone for sharing past criminal convictions or court proceedings unless the perpetrator had name suppression.

Also note that it is not illegal to share past criminal convictions of a transgender person, and link that to their new name. There are some activists trying to make it illegal, but clearly that would be an incredibly dangerous thing to do. Every criminal could simply create a new identity and escape their past if that were the case. If you’ve committed a crime, or crimes, you don’t get to erase them because it makes you feel bad or outs you to others.

Caroline

If you can find the strength please do go to the police and press again and see a solicitor.

If you can’t find the strength then and know that I still think you’re fab. Thank you.

Oh Caro

I don't know how you're doing this, I would be in pieces. You've so much backbone, resolve, and strength.

Please also take care of you tho, and maybe step away from Twitter for a bit. It's toxic. There are so many people on MN who support you.

As for Steph demanding receipts - start your own thread, I'm sure we'll all be along shortly.

Solidarity Caro. Just echoing previous posters to say keep trying the police. There must be a point that they will start to act. I would have thought you would have reached it with the abhorrent threats against you and your family but apparently not

Behaving unpleasantly towards people is always going to have people googling your name. Stating facts is not unpleasant especially when the lives and futures of young people is on the line.

It is a criminal offence in England and Wales for someone to harass you or put you in fear of violence. This legal guide is designed to give information about the ways in which the law can protect you.

What is harassment?
The law states that harassment is when a person behaves in a way which is intended to cause you distress or alarm. The behaviour must happen on more than one occasion. It can be the same type of behaviour or different types of behaviour on each occasion. For example, one text message intended to distress you is not harassment. Two text messages may be harassment. One text message and one phone call may also be harassment.

Harassment can include things your abuser has said or done. The incidents could have happened recently or they could have happened months apart.

When deciding whether your abuser’s behaviour is harassment, the court will consider whether a reasonable person, who had the same information your abuser had, would think that it is harassment. An incident of harassment could be a range of things, for example:

a text, answer-phone message, letter or email
a comment or threat
standing outside someone’s house or driving past it
an act of violence
^damage to someone else’s property
maliciously and falsely reporting you to the police when you have done nothing wrong^

What is putting someone in fear of violence?
Putting someone in fear of violence is when someone says or does two or more things that make you fear that violence will be used against you. The law states that a person is guilty of putting you in fear of violence if a reasonable person, who had the same information your abuser had, would think his behaviour would cause you to fear violence.

rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-information/violence-against-women-and-international-law/harassment-and-the-law/#What%20is%20harassment?

Acts of harassment do not have to be exactly as above.

For example a variation of standing outside someone’s house or driving past it could easily be posting photos of places you go to frequently or your house.

I think there are others that can be ticked off.

God, Caroline has received textbook harassment.

She could be used as a case study, for fuck's sake.

I don't get it.

And yes, banging on about playing golf is textbook.

Sorry, Sexnotgender, you're quite right.

Just echoing everyone else's thoughts and support. If you would like to ask any legal questions for some free, legal advice let me know and I'll pass them onto the barrister of the castle.

Hasn't she just Datun.

Funny how we got bombarded with lawyer stuff and then you google harassment and see that in very clear and understandable english isn't it?

Caro If you do report it to the police they will be aware many people will be watching to see how they handle this. Including several journalists.
So I don't believe they will be able to ignore it this time.
Be strong, take care, and remember we are supporting you.

Battle?

Oh my god

Talk about bigging yourself up

Sorty that was in repky to Jessica posting those twitter quotes

Just to make it clear

This harassment really does need to be reported to the police. Let them say they won't do anything, get it on record, and take it to your MP, the PCC and the Home Office. There is no ambiguity whatsoever about the threatening golf tweets, even if someone does think they can identify them into harmlessness, and those posts should really be used as evidence in another related case too.

(and I really agree with a PP who asked who on earth these people think they are. They have no authority or standing so who cares what they say?)

I know this is crazy but I am actually too frightened to go to the police and can’t face going through it all again

And that its absolutely fine for you to decide

I spoke to a police officer and they said religious hate talk should be flagged up with an inspector at the very least, so should you decide you wanted to take this further that's probably the right stanch to take

I note that in terms of politics if a politician or journalist had a story and they wanted to draw attention to it for a public interest they could legitimately say some personal stuff.

If they were then the subject of similar things to Caroline the police would take it seriously as an act of harassment. Because of the nature of it and the way its being carried out.

Because Caroline is not a more senior journalist and comes from a religious background she is somehow seen as a legitimate target and somehow 'fair game'.

Her family have not been part of her political agenda. She has not paraded them on TV. And so her defence and right to a private life is very different to the situation with Susie Green. Especially with regards to the word Susie Green does with her activism.

I'm sure there will be attempts to draw parallels but there are very different circumstances.

Harrassment as a rule is a crime that police usually fail to take seriously especially without persistence.

As I say nuance is important and there are similar current examples featuring more prominent political figures (and Caro IS a political figure and can argue the case she is) which do get taken more seriously.

This is not OK. It about more than Caro. Its politically motivated.

Stance

Fucks sake

@Carowiththegoodhair

Good afternoon Caroline. Sorry for the late reply but I was enjoying my lunch.

Anyway, you are entitled to your personal opinion. What you appear to do is publish defamatory statements on your personal Twitter feed and, indeed, you have just published one on here about me.

This could be cleared up very quickly by you sharing the screenshots of AH supposedly doxxing your children. Having an opinion on whether anyone is a good parent is not (oddly enough) doxxing. People other than you are entitled to their own honest opinions. I would also be most obliged if you would share the evidence that anyone (especially me) threatened to come round and attack you with a golf club. You repeatedly make that accusation in public and yet are unable to provide a shred of evidence to support such an outrageous allegation.

Quick tip, discussing golfing facilities is not a threat to come round to an individual's home, place of work, or anywhere in order to attack them with a golf club. The allegation is made by you as you wish to draw attention to one's alleged past (and yes it is alleged because unless any of you can provide a certificate of conviction you are unable to prove anything, and an extract from a supposed transcript is not proof) in order to focus on smearing individuals with whom you have a political disagreement. That said when those individuals draw attention to your own conduct suddenly that is harassment, abuse, etc.

Yesterday the Twitter feed was a wonder to behold. In my honest opinion it was demeaning, undignified, abusive, and inherently harassing. That is just MY subjective opinion. Others may, of course, differ with me on this; however, I am aghast at the targeting of a good man (as well as others). I, for one, will be putting the opposing argument.

caroline

You dont owe any poster on here a reply of any shape or form