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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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GrimDamnFanjo · 25/03/2019 20:35

www.facebook.com/girlguidinguk/posts/10156428740269682?comment_id=10156436896229682&reply_comment_id=10156443603109682&notif_id=1553543238110753&notif_t=feed_comment_reply

Good to see some pushback...

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Lymphy · 25/03/2019 21:22

The comment
“Do you have a safeguarding badge” Grin

If that commenter is on here, bravo 👏

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2019 21:26

Do you have a safeguarding badge Grin

Angryresister · 26/03/2019 16:48

Where is the comments section?

GrimDamnFanjo · 26/03/2019 23:11

You need to click on the image I think

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Angryresister · 27/03/2019 00:24

Still can't find comments but incensed all over again by this gem...
WOMEN-ONLY VOLUNTEER ROLES
Some Girlguiding roles are only held by women - such as unit leader. These roles are open to all women, including trans women and non-binary members who were recorded as female at birth, who can make their Girlguiding Promise.
Any volunteer wishing to take up one of these roles is expected to be a positive role model for girls and should have the skills and behaviours expected of a leadership role. These things are evaluated during the recruitment process and in conversation with the local commissioner.
When enquiring about volunteering with Girlguiding, all new volunteers will be asked simple personal information questions by our online membership system, GO. You should not ask if a volunteer is trans and it may be unlawful to do so.
The expectations for volunteers wishing to take on women-only roles are the same for all women leaders:
Complete the online enquiry form ticking the appropriate gender/sex selection (This section of GO is being reviewed)
Enter their preferred name - this is the name that will be used whenever in a guiding situation
Act as a representative of Girlguiding as a girl-only organisation and uphold our Code of Conduct
Want to benefit from, and contribute to, a movement of girls and young women who share and explore issues and experiences relating to growing up as a girl in today’s world
Wear Girlguiding uniform both in the unit meeting place and out in public
Girlguiding recognises that transitioning is a personal process and people will be at different stages in this process. So, we ask that any trans woman volunteer wishing to take on a woman-only role should be comfortable and confident in consistently meeting the requirements above.
Volunteers currently in women-only roles who disclose they are non-binary are welcome to stay in that role as long as they can continue to uphold the expectations listed above. Their experience and skills as leaders are valuable and should be retained wherever possible.
If they feel that they won’t be able to do this then we have several volunteer roles open to everyone that they may wish to find out about. See the section on current volunteers who are transitioning for more information.

Angryresister · 27/03/2019 00:28

What is the point of having women only roles if they are not reserved for women?there is a reason, which is obvious to most of us...

pombear · 27/03/2019 00:51

Girlguiding recognises that transitioning is a personal process and people will be at different stages in this process. So, we ask that any trans woman volunteer wishing to take on a woman-only role should be comfortable and confident in consistently meeting the requirements above.

Basically, you can be a fully intact male person, 'transitioning in your personal process and at a different stage' ie. I feel like a woman, therefore I am and as long as you adhere to the code (tick some boxes, uphold the code, wear the uniform [GG, are you OK? ] Hmm you're good to go?

Volunteers currently in women-only roles who disclose they are non-binary are welcome to stay in that role as long as they can continue to uphold the expectations listed above. Oh yeah, don't want to wear the uniform, but still have a vagina? You're not good to go!

Girl guides. What on earth are you doing in the name of wokeness?

GrimDamnFanjo · 27/03/2019 15:12

I can remember GG making much of all the research and data demonstrating How valuable single sex spaces were for girls, how girls lose out in mixed clubs....

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/03/2019 15:50

Ah, bit they didn't actually mean mixed sex, they meant mixed gender

TheFrontHoleIsConnectedToThe · 27/03/2019 17:46

If this is about "gender" and not sex, why in god's name are Non binary females allowed to do it? Right there they are basically admitting that it being a woman is not a feeling but one's bio sex.

OrchidInTheSun · 27/03/2019 17:53

Anyone who wants in is my n. No wonder they're losing volunteers hand over fist

OrchidInTheSun · 27/03/2019 17:54

Is in. Not my n.

I really shouldn't post from my phone Blush

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