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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Paedophile at Drag Queen Story Time

130 replies

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 16/03/2019 11:20

Houston Public Library is apologizing after a man charged for sexually assaulting a child was allowed to entertain children at Drag Queen storytime.

abc13.com/drag-queen-storytime-reader-once-charged-with-assault/5197176/

Garza was charged with child sex assault in 2008. According to records, his victim was a child under the age of 14 years old.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 08/09/2019 08:59

This. Not Thai. I have nothing against Thai!

LangCleg · 08/09/2019 09:23

At what point is MNHQ going to amend its FWR moderation policy to acknowledge that this political movement is entirely in denial about its blindingly obvious infiltration by abusers?

NotBadConsidering · 08/09/2019 09:35

I think this needs its own thread pencils.

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/09/2019 09:56

acknowledge that this political movement is entirely in denial about its blindingly obvious infiltration by abusers?

You could be generous and take the line that if they acknowledge seeing that particular bit then they would have to acknowledge a whole lot more which would be utterly unacceptable to those driving this. However lets face it, we're already in a place where there are special exemptions being made for safeguarding that value the enablement of males to get what they want at the expense of the basic rights, inclusion and safety of women and children despite multiple incidents where women and children have suffered, and we're merely into how many women and children are acceptable collateral damage. Which is mind boggling and very difficult to understand how authorities can truly be this thick and this unjust.

Or you could take the line that this is not a bug, this is a feature, and many of the most important drivers and funders of this movement designed this feature with their own needs in mind, and have sufficient money and power to force aside law, basic justice, human rights of people without penises/children etc.

Honestly not sure which is scarier.

Either way its interesting to note just how many public figures with the ear of government and media in the UK TRA movement alone have a history of violent or sex related 'incidents'.

LangCleg · 08/09/2019 10:05

Or you could take the line that this is not a bug, this is a feature

Given the deliberately deaf, dumb and blind response by institutions and authorities, I fear this is the line I'm increasingly taking.

Kilbranan · 08/09/2019 10:09

I agree it seems to be a very common feature and it’s clear to see why promotion of queer theory would further their own interests. But we are absolutely not allowed to discuss this because it’s transphobic Hmm
Scary times

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/09/2019 10:18

Transphobic has come to mean nothing more than = is not a whole hearted, unconditional believer parroting the right words.

Seriously you might as well say 'heretic'.

I recently re read some of the original translation Don Camillo, the bits about 1950s communism, particularly Stalin's Russia, were very acute reading. Particularly a bit where a communist commented that those without correct beliefs forfeited their human rights, and where a communist woman officer apologised humbly to the male who had hit her in the face for saying something off message for having necessitated him to correct her.

If you read around the Tudor suppression of Catholicism with people being forced to swear allegiance to the true religion and being arrested, tortured and burned as witches/heretics/having been caught saying something that could be implied as not wholly on board it's also tediously familiar. There's several candidates for the role of Cardinal Wolsey.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 08/09/2019 10:38

Is Robert Clothier advocating drag queen storytime too? (Wasn’t sure how linked with the thread rather than being another example of a transideologue being exposed as a paedophile.

2BthatUnnoticed · 08/09/2019 11:13

Pencils I commend your research into this. I agree it deserves its own post as not everyone engages with “revived” posts.

I too wonder if the moderation guidelines need to be updated. Of people who have strongly supported the removal of single sex spaces two that I know of (unrelated to Pencil’s post) have now been charged with child sexual abuse.

A third (JY) is in female spaces, filming children at pools and now grooming a 17yo girl via FaceTime (including exposing himself) and MSM won’t touch it.

WTAF is going on!? The moderation guidelines speak of protecting “vulnerable groups” - well, children are vulnerable and need protecting, but safeguarding posts have been deleted for no apparent reason.

Should the guidelines be updated along the lines of:

“MN recognises that throughout history, predators have often tried to leverage the institutional power of (otherwise worthy) organisations to access, groom and abuse children.

Safeguarding children is everyone’s responsibility, and MN will always support discussions on safeguarding.”

2BthatUnnoticed · 08/09/2019 11:14

Sorry went off on a bit of a tangent, perhaps should have made a new thread Blush

HandsOffMyRights · 08/09/2019 13:32

2B you make some valid points, so no need to apologise for feeling strongly, as so many of us do, about child predators and MN guidelines. I got a strike once for using a pronoun relating to Jess Bradley's sex. A week or so later Bradley was under investigation for a number of alarming offences, including one relating to images of children.

Groomers go for the adults too, so it goes without saying that I hope MN and the moderators are trained to spot manipulation tactics/gaslighting by abusers who post, troll or report genuine MN users/concerned parents on here.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/09/2019 13:41

I hope MN and the moderators are trained to spot manipulation tactics/gaslighting by abusers who post, troll or report genuine MN users/concerned parents on here.

They are not, and they don't.
Although some have been on a course about coercive control.

LangCleg · 08/09/2019 14:19

No,2B - very good points.

The "sweeping generalisations" rule is being leveraged to get posts about safeguarding removed. It's unconscionable.

OrchidInTheSun · 08/09/2019 15:15

Clothier is a drag queen Birds. I'm not Pencils but I think there is a dangerous sentiment that drag queens are safe around children, when clearly it's often a very good disguise for getting close to kids.

I mean can you imagine a 'middle aged men story hour' at your local library?

'Bring your small children to the library where childless middle aged men will read them stories!' doesn't have quite the same element of fun

Ereshkigal · 08/09/2019 15:38

I think it should be a thing Orchid! Acceptance without exception...

PencilsInSpace · 08/09/2019 15:47

Is Robert Clothier advocating drag queen storytime too?

No, he was sentenced in 2013 and DQST only started in 2015 (although I can't find anything on him after that date and he only got 26 months - who knows what name he might be using now?)

I posted here because he'd already been mentioned a couple of times on the thread.

I can't imagine there'd be much media interest in this now, unfortunately - it happened 6 years ago and he had already left Brighton Pride so there'd be no expectation on them to comment.

picklemepopcorn · 08/09/2019 16:01

Tell me, if he stood down in 2010, and was convicted in 2013, would that imply he was investigated around the time he stood down? A 2013 conviction would relate to an incident taking place much earlier than 2013, wouldn't it?

PencilsInSpace · 08/09/2019 16:04

No, the sting operation was in March 2013 and he was sentenced in July.

picklemepopcorn · 08/09/2019 16:06

Ok, no, it was March 2013 that he was arrested.

picklemepopcorn · 08/09/2019 16:06

Sorry!

Iloveelephants2 · 08/09/2019 16:10

So this whole trend is more interested in protecting adults or the men who want to dress up as women, in favour of protecting children.
You can’t make this stuff up. And voicing an opinion out loud on this topic upsets the general public, as they too now want to protect the grown men here and “their rights” with this trend (not the children).
We really have been brainwashed as a society haven’t we ?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/09/2019 16:18

We really have been brainwashed as a society haven’t we?

Just the leaders.

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/09/2019 16:27

How could a male predator present themselves so instead of encountering the challenge, zero tolerance and firm boundaries society and parents would unhesitatingly put down around their behaviour, in fact they're regarded as exciting and edgy and important to welcome, and having doubts about their behaviour and its motives is regarded as intolerance of something normal, natural and positive? Could it be the case that someone doing the exact same thing while presenting as any other middle aged man would be openly acknowledged as unacceptable?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 08/09/2019 16:42

How could a male predator present themselves so instead of encountering the challenge, zero tolerance and firm boundaries society and parents would unhesitatingly put down around their behaviour, in fact they're regarded as exciting and edgy and important to welcome, and having doubts about their behaviour and its motives is regarded as intolerance of something normal, natural and positive? Could it be the case that someone doing the exact same thing while presenting as any other middle aged man would be openly acknowledged as unacceptable?

The could wear a red suit, black boots and a white beard! 🎅🏼

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/09/2019 21:10

The could wear a red suit, black boots and a white beard!

Excellent example. Costume and image are powerful at overcoming people's natural instincts and wariness.

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