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Penny Mordaunt thread

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Angryresister · 15/03/2019 00:35

Where has it gone?

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Ereshkigal · 15/03/2019 00:35

It's still there that I can see?

Ereshkigal · 15/03/2019 00:36

International Women’s Day Q&A with Penny Mordaunt MP, Secretary of State for International Development NOW CLOSED TO NEW QUESTIONS http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet livee_events/3523984-International-Women-s-Day-Q-A-with-Penny-Mordaunt-MP-Secretary-of-State-for-International-Development-NOW-CLOSED-TO-NEW-QUESTIONS

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Angryresister · 15/03/2019 00:41

Thanks Eresh, but still not showing only feminist chat page

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Angryresister · 15/03/2019 00:41

On My ,sorry

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Lamaha · 15/03/2019 06:11

It's now on Mumsnet Webchat page.

NeurotrashWarrior · 15/03/2019 06:44

The new Relationships and Sex Education guidance will help children to understand LGBT issues in an age-appropriate way. It does not set out exactly how a school should teach about LGBT issues, but instead says that the school should cover LGBT when it considers it appropriate, and they are free to determine how they do this.

Safeguarding loophole right there.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 15/03/2019 08:11

I saw one that I think has gone? The one in feminism board that said something about her getting her arse handed to her?

Ereshkigal · 15/03/2019 08:12

That's still there. Someone wrote a good article about this debacle.

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Angryresister · 15/03/2019 08:59

SHame it cant be put back here. It is very informative in terms of questions we asked and invaluable for newcomers to the FWR board. I don't understand why it's been moved.

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OrchidInTheSun · 15/03/2019 09:09

Probably because Penny is hoping it will go away AngryResister!

MsMcWoodle · 15/03/2019 09:29

Penny thinks that transwomen are women and that actual women can't have a word to define themselves because some of them don't have periods.
Traitor. Disgusting traitor. Ever time a woman or child is put at risk by her policies I'm going to send her the details, because she must take the blame.

Fairenuff · 15/03/2019 11:55

Penny was having her own Spartacus moment in the webchat. 'Yes, yes, transwomen are actual women because they meet the definition of actual women which I can't tell you because I don't know what the word 'woman' means. Yes, yes, I am the minister for women except I don't know who they are because I can't define them and yes, yes, I am prepared to die on this hill for it.'

What a plonker.

NeurotrashWarrior · 15/03/2019 12:13

Anyone wondering if they accidentally on purpose forgot to close the thread to new comments?!

Cloven · 15/03/2019 12:34

Who the hell are the Minister's advisers in that department? They are obviously the problem, and will continue to be a problem for a long fucking time I'd imagine if they are career civil servants.

What do you do then if the civil servants who work on the Women and Equalities portfolio are hell-bent on taking women's rights away? They'll keep trying. AGPs are nothing if not obsessively determined.

Please tell me I've got this all wrong and don't understand how the Civil Service works, because I don't really and this is just my poorly-informed speculation.

Ereshkigal · 15/03/2019 12:44

This is relevant. Not just a minority of civil servants in the "Women" and Equalities Office:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3520371-civil-service-trans-policy-what-can-i-do

rightreckoner · 15/03/2019 12:52

There needs to be a new forum topic dedicated to webchat disasters. NSPCC and Penny Moredick to kick things off.

Ereshkigal · 15/03/2019 12:54

All the WEP ones.

Popchyk · 15/03/2019 13:02

Sophie Walker of the WEP was a belter.

stumbledin · 15/03/2019 14:13

Help! I am really confused.

Did she ever answer any of the questions. If so can someone who knows say which pages they are on.

I cant seem to find any.

Or did she just never reply?

Lamaha · 15/03/2019 15:14

I think her answers start around page 19 or so.

Lamaha · 15/03/2019 15:18

Page 18

stumbledin · 15/03/2019 20:41

Thanks *Lamaha"

It is page 18 and I have now read her answers.

Wonder how many answers were actually written by her. They seem straight out of the government manual.

Although on the TWAW seems more like her and very disappointing.

Why are politicians (and the media) so unwilling to say that there are 2 different sets of rights - women's rights and trans rights - but women should not have to give up their rights because trans activists have set as one of their objectives to be acknowledged as the same as women ie those born female. Its just mad, no other rights group is based on erasing another group.

So depressing that so many women think that it is their duty to appease the militant trans activists.

They would never take the same position on trans racialism and tell Black People they should accept white people who identify as Black as being Black, and be allowed to register on the census etc, as Black.

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