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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Incorrect Government Information

56 replies

ClingFilmApplications · 13/03/2019 09:13

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but on this page the UK government claim that "gender" is a protected characteristic:

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/equality-and-human-rights-commission

This can be reported here (I've done so, but it may be helpful if others do too):

www.gov.uk/contact/govuk

OP posts:
BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 13/03/2019 09:17

fucking hell

page reported, thanks for flagging

MillytantForceit · 13/03/2019 09:21

And the relevant page to quote back at them:

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/equality-act/protected-characteristics

Angryresister · 13/03/2019 09:45

Done. Ffs this fudging of language is so insidious

PotholePalace · 13/03/2019 09:46

Also reported.

OldCrone · 13/03/2019 09:47

When I clicked on the link to the contact page in the OP, it said I was reporting this page. Make sure you change it to the government page if you're using that link!

EweSurname · 13/03/2019 09:52

That contact us page is about technical difficulties - it's to do with IT support rather than challenging the content I think.

EweSurname · 13/03/2019 09:53

Other local government sites are set up in a similar way and they're always telling us only to use it if the page doesn't load or there are broken links etc

OldCrone · 13/03/2019 09:56

There's an 'is there anything wrong with this page' button at the bottom of this page:

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/equality-and-human-rights-commission

but that also seems to be for technical problems.

MillytantForceit · 13/03/2019 09:57

It is a technical problem.

There is an incorrect word embedded in the HTML code.

It needs correcting.

EweSurname · 13/03/2019 10:05

I've used the contact us page so hopefully it will get passed on to the relevant department

RepealTheGRA · 13/03/2019 11:37

Ffs! Seriously???

newdocket · 13/03/2019 12:09

ffs. have contacted

Hereford1 · 13/03/2019 12:16

Reported

GerryblewuptheER · 13/03/2019 12:20

I have contacted too.

Angry
WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 13/03/2019 12:25

done

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 13/03/2019 12:55

Funny how it's always sex that's is forgotten in the list of protected characteristics.

TurboTeddy · 13/03/2019 12:59

Reported. Fuckers

SingingLily · 13/03/2019 13:13

Reported. Every little helps.

Daughterofmabel · 13/03/2019 13:21

Reported

adultFemaleElf · 13/03/2019 13:24

Reported.

But is a fucking travesty that even when reporting the error to the UK Government I abbreviated my name and used a spare email address for fear of doxing.
Because someone working in their IT department will have deliberately changed the word from Gender to Sex.

adultFemaleElf · 13/03/2019 13:24

This was not an oversight or a mistake.

EweSurname · 14/03/2019 16:13

I had a reply:

Your query has been passed on to the team at the Department for Education who manage this material. They will investigate and respond to you directly (unfortunately we can not give an estimate time on when you will receive a response).

In the meantime your original query with GOV.UK will now be closed.

Alternatively, if you would like to contact them directly, you can find contact details at the below link:
www.education.gov.uk/help/contactus

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/03/2019 16:30

Am I surprised this originates from the DfE? Am I hell!
The government branch who are meant to oversee the safeguarding and welfare of children in schools but who fund and promote organisations that misrepresent the law and undermine the safeguarding of children.

NoCissy · 14/03/2019 17:37

This was not an oversight or a mistake

The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is chaired by David Isaac. He has been in the role since 2016.

Prior to that, he was chair of Stonewall, 2003-2012.

He also had a gig as a trustee of Big Lottery Fund, 2014-2018. They who fund Mermaids.

He is a lawyer with Pinsent Masons. This firm was named by Stonewall as the UK's top LGBT+ employer 2019. Not the first time it has received this award.

Isaac has been named regularly as a top LGBT influencer in the Stonewall awards. Including in 2019.

Isaac was chosen by Nicky Morgan (Education Sec) after having been put forward by a Whitehall select committee. He is a technologies lawyer (no human rights or equalities experience outside Stonewall). He counts the government and the BBC amongst his clients.

He has not given up his personal legal role whilst chairing the EHRC. Questions were asked at the time of his appointment about this potential conflict of interest. Harriet Harman (Parliament's joint Committee on Human Rights) in particular was concerned that he could not avoid conflict with his business interests, and questioned why these interests had not been raised as an issue prior to his appointment.

Chairwoman of the Women and Equalities Committee, Maria Miller said: “The public appointments process needs to command the confidence of members of the public. MPs have been given a central role in scrutinising that decision-making, yet some aspects of this are opaque. In this case the appointments panel did not document any discussion as to how Mr Isaac would balance his role as a senior equity partner in an international law firm with the role of chair of the EHRC despite potential and perceived conflicts of interest and possible issues with the Nolan Principles. Records of further conversations between Mr Isaac and the Cabinet Office were also unavailable to the committee. To scrutinise important appointment decisions House of Commons committees need basic facts. In this case these were not forthcoming. In our report, we recommend that the pre-appointment scrutiny guidelines be reviewed."

They appointed him anyway.

Nobody seems to have questioned his connections with the pressure group Stonewall and whether that might lead him into conflict.

Harriet Harman also said at the time:

"What you should be having for the EHRC is someone who is a champion for human rights … You have to be fearless against the vested interests. The lion’s share of his income will be coming from an organisation that has a vested interest. As they say, ‘he who pays the piper calls the tune’.”

That comment was made with regard to Isaac's business interests. But vested interests aren't necessarily just the money making ones.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/03/2019 17:43

Follow the money is such wise advise with this corrupt shitstorm