Trans women and periods

[MhairiV]

I'm just going to throw it out there - few things make me more angry than reading about trans women and their 'periods'. Now I know I've had them my whole adolescent/adult life and I know plenty about how they work (and how they impact your life when they're not straightforward, god I know about that) but where does this trans period bollocks come from?

Without a uterus or ovaries or eggs or uterine lining or any of that stuff, where does any sort of cycle come from? Do they take oestrogen on an artificial cycle with progesterone or something? Or am I basically affording way too much time and thinking to something which makes zero sense in the first place and should just ignore it altogether? 🤨

Even if there is some element of truth in "sore breasts and dreadful moodswings" I'm still going to be angry anyway, I guess. That's not a period. That's sore boobs and a moodswing.

Help me o wise ones.

I wish I could remember the Twitter conversation I read last year. Some woman (I think it was a women, not a transwoman, but I might be misremembering) was trying to redefine “period” as merely something that happened as a result of hormone fluctuations. So, totally ignoring anything that required a female reproductive system. Enter a man, who might have been a Green or Lib Dem councillor, saying “whoa, so men can have periods too? So if I’m feeling a bit tired or rough it could be my hormones?”

They were all being totally serious. For once there was no fetishistic angle, just a total refusal to grasp or acknowledge basic biology.

I think ‘transwo men’ could catch on...

I read that as transwoo men.

These were the replies I got for stating that they can't menstruate (you know, have periods). This person is seriously stupid and unhinged.

I love how their responses are always ‘Yeah get a clue! We’re right because Science!! So there!!’ when literally every single thing they say is in complete denial of basic biological science. It’s like Newspeak.

Ugh CKoRn

This topic has attracted every pervert, creep, basement tweller, and loser on the planet.

Exactly the sort of people you want to be sharing your spaces with.

@haworthia
Was this it?

Before starting hormonal contraception I used to get my period between 10-11 a.m every fourth Saturday. It was almost spookily predictable. I didn't even need to bother inserting a tampon on the Friday night.

As a kid I found it impressive that my cycle was so beautifully balanced. It made me feel very much in touch with nature and the tides. I used to get terrible period pains but even though I resented them I always felt fundamentally positive about my periods because of their intrinsic harmony with the world.

These idiots have no idea how complex women's reproductive biology is. Doesn't matter how hard they identify as women: men can't have periods any more than I can produce semen. It's the same ignorance and appropriation that lie behind claims that uterus transplants for men will soon be available. No, they won't mate.

No one said we menstruate lol. We still have periods though

This is the same as when people claim that women is not the same as female human. It's slowly taking words away from us.

Yes @Courday that’s the one! You’re brilliant

No one said we menstruate lol. We still have periods though

Yeah, periods of being complete knobheads.

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So now periods and menstruation aren't the same?

Whaaaaa?? How can that be? OK maybe they feel like they're affected by the hormones they're taking but my dictionary definition of period would not class what they're experiencing as having a period. Period.

a flow of blood and other material from the lining of the uterus, lasting for a few days and occurring in sexually mature women who are not pregnant at intervals of about one lunar month until the menopause.

Then again, some people don't seem to like dictionary definitions.

Dictionary definitions are oppressive and exclusionary these days, Confusedmoi. Only fascists use them.

No one said we menstruate lol. We still have periods though

No. You really don't.

Wish I used twitter so I could post a graph of the massively fluctuating hormones in a woman’s cycle and ask how they achieve this with monophasic hormones? No fluctuations, no periods - for example, if you’re taking the GnRHa they’re such fans of.

Period=menstrual period. Requires endometrium, a womb, and ovaries.

Deluded men, who will never have any of the above, continue to be deluded.

No fluctuations, no periods - for example, if you’re taking the GnRHa they’re such fans of.

So ironic that the GnRHa drugs are actually used to suppress the female menstrual cycle in women with conditions such as endometriosis and fibroids. It's almost like the period-replicators are tying themselves in knots

Period is actually short for ‘Menstrual period’ (as in the period of time during the menstrual cycle when you are actually bleeding), no?

Yes, so women have a whole menstrual cycle, only one part of which involves shedding the uterus lining.
A whole cycle which is an intrinsic part of our reproductive biology.

This appropriation of the ‘period’ is fetish pure and simple.

Manstruation.

I can't even get really mad about it, it's so absurd. I have crippling pain from my periods for years now which my doctors refuse to address and I'm hoping menopause finally ends them soon.

Which brings me to my second part - I know almost no woman who actually wants a period - every actual woman I know feels somewhere from mildly irritated to extremely unpleasant about her period, depending on her level of discomfort or pain she has with it. So I say let them be louder about this level of extreme delusion. Let it become widely known they believe they have periods in spite of having no uterus and no bleeding. Only the people who have drunk the trans koolaid by the gallon will be able to continue going along with this nonsense then.

Only the people who have drunk the trans koolaid by the gallon will be able to continue going along with this nonsense then.

Whilst my natural inclination is to let them blather on to the wall, I'm very much aware that no one would have thought a thug rapist like Karen White would be allowed to assault women in prison, either. 'No one but Kool-Aid drinkers' would have been the refrain a couple of years ago.

Likewise A 19-year-old teenage boy being made Labour Party women's officer and trying to eject women from the party, whilst their remit is to recruit as many as possible. Who claims they can get pregnant and came out to their family as a lesbian.

'That's kool aid thinking territory', doesn't seem to cut the mustard much.

I hope you're right, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah I agree. I think this is completely absurd and think nobody in their right mind would entertain this nonsense, but then how did Karen White happen? Why are all these women’s orgs rephrasing stuff, like ‘people with a cervix’ and crap like that?

The fact that women die - now - as a result of their treatment by men when they have their periods (or because they don’t have proper sanitary protection so have to resort to reusing rags), miss school because they can’t afford decent protection, and in some ‘cultures’ and considered ‘unclean’ at that time... not to mention girls who would rather bunk off achool when they are having their period rather than to share unisex loos, or women and girls who have bloody awful periods...

And it’s all just a laugh for these people who
‘Just wanna have fun’? Nah, not buying it.