Boy, 12, raped six-year-old sister ‘to recreate Grand Theft Auto scene’, court told

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This is horrific, and I found it hard to read, especially the part where "the boy’s mother told the court he was “doing really well” and hoped her family could one day reconcile.

“We just want to make things right and do what's best for the safety of the children,” she added.

“My daughter used to be very sad about it all because she worried this was her fault, but she’s come on leaps and bounds, she’s a very strong girl and there’s not an ounce of sadness in her now, I’m so proud of her.” (My emphasis).

Pertinent questions for me are why this boy was permitted to play an R18 game unsupervised, and why his sister could not tell her parents what was going on, but felt that what was happening to was her fault! At age 6!

And shouldn't a 12 year old know, without being told, that what he did
to his sister was dreadfully wrong? At least it seems as if the boy and his sister are getting the therapy they both need, but it's a story that makes one despair at how even young girls will feel responsible for male behaviour.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-boy-sister-gta-sex-scene-swindon-court-a8799261.html

This is so disturbing. Putting the whole game issue to one side I think the parents are unfit. Can't believe their daughter has been left in their care, although I guess it might have reinforced the little girls sense of guilt if she was to be removed from the home.

The mother is deluded about the impact of this on her daughter, and I think she is doing a great deal of harm on top of the trauma of rape with her 'little mary sunshine' declarations. As if being repeatedly raped is something a little girl can get over, esp when done in the home, by her brother. Clearly they want to welcome him home with open arms and to hell with the consequences for their little girl.

The games/porn culture is an issue, as it helps normalise terrible behaviour, but it doesn't cause it, but I think it encourages it in those who are prone.

I’ve played a few of the GTA games, in one of them you can pick up a prostitute, drive to a quiet part of the map. Pay for sexual acts and afterward run her over or beat her to death and get your money back. That was part of the actual game, and not a mod.

so eventually he'll come home and eve4yrthing will be hunky dory will it

the mother is in denial that poor little girl will be traumatised

In what other situation would a victim of rape be forced to continue living with their abuser??! That poor little girl.

@MamaDane what proof do you need? As I said, don't assume every man is a rapist but understand that any man is capable of that and you can't dismiss a victim because there is no 'indication'

This is a truly horrific case and young children have been given unsupervised access to sexually violent material which lead to this outcome. In Australia a teenage girl now has a colostomy bag for the rest of her life because she tried to recreate a porn scene, there are so many of these stories and you are saying porn and games like gta aren't a problem because your brother never raped anyone so it's all fine.

This case and the mother words deeply disturb me.

I know the girl is not currently living with her brother but it seems the mother wants him to return home.

I hope social services do not allow this to happen. Deeper issues are here than him just watching porn, this is just an excuse.

Many boys his age watch porn but do not decide to use their little sisters as an sexual object.

It seems he has received no punishment and will have no criminal record as an adult. Who knows what the future will hold, will he attack again? Maybe.

I just feel sorry for that little girl especially if her brother comes back to live with her.

How do you find out if a man is a rapist, MamaDane ?

I also agree with you googly
While I realise that pure and computer games needs to be discussed- it amazes me (though i should be used to it) that the repeated raoe of a 6 yr old girl in her home by a young person who will have his record cleared is but the central discussion.
The discussion about why he did it should come after those in charge answer to why the fuck this girl hasn’t got justice and why they are minimising the crimes against her.

*porn

*rape
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Sorry ~should be working~

@codenameduchess any woman could potentially also be a rapist. I listen to victims when they come forward, but I cannot just assume people are rapists unless there are actual inductions of it. Like a person saying "hey, I was raped by x" is a rather big indicator. Also people who tend to be overly touchy feely, like the man in the other thread that wanted to kiss the little girl he barely knew, but the little girl turned her head and he still tried to kiss her, I'd also call that an indication of him perhaps being someone who molests. But unless any of that information is there, I'm not going to play schrödinger's rapist.

How lovely for you. Good luck with that.

Now moving on from NAMALT and Women Do It Too So Shhh…

Knicknack Jesus christ. 🙄

I’ve played a few of the GTA games, in one of them you can pick up a prostitute, drive to a quiet part of the map. Pay for sexual acts and afterward run her over or beat her to death and get your money back. That was part of the actual game, and not a mod.

I remember that.

Besides, did I take a wrong turn and end up on reddit or something? What's with all this "HDU attack my video games, my porn! totes harmless fun!" ? With the eyerolls and the NAMALT no less.

Francis I never understood women who would choose their abusive partners over their child.

At least with children, I somewhat get it as obviously as a mother they are both your kids, you love them and there's an instinct to protect them, but in the end, it is of course at the expense of the abused child. So no matter what you either choose the abuser by not choosing the abused child or you choose the abused child. Horrible position to be a mother in. But even worse for the abused child.

Knicknack Jesus Christ

…….

You said you weren't going to play schroedingers rapist. The only possible answer is good luck with that, because that's what women have to do. You're welcome to believe whatever you want about your personal risk from men, and so are other women.

NAMALT - you have said exactly that.
Women do it too - you have said exactly that. (2% via 98%.)

The sole purpose of saying such things is to discourage women from saying things that basically hurt men's feelings, and to present a disproportionate view that minimises women's concerns to make men feel better.

I'm not ok with that, but YMMV.

Francis - my daughter has had intensive therapy, and as she goes through puberty we're able to access more. It's hard though, and we're all extremely worried about her because she appears to be on the cusp of an eating disorder, plus shes due to move up to comprehensive school in September, so it's a time of huge change for her. We're trying to guide her through it as best we can.

Well obviously it is most important to support that poor little boy. Nice that the judge chatted to him about football to make him feel more comfortable. And now his 6 year old, sister has been told being raped wasn't her fault she has cheered up completely. What's the problem?
I am so, so angry
I really hope that someone is advocating for that little girl and that social services are keeping her safe.

Knicknack It started off with me saying my brother is not a rapist. That is hardly an unreasonable statement to make. You are trying to silence me, not the other way around. I do think it's wrong to generalize based on gender, skin, or sexuality. So yes I have a problem with people assuming that because my brother is a man that he could be a rapist. It's absurd. I'm a lesbian and I've been sexually harassed by both genders unfortunately. So you're also silencing women who have been subjected to woman on woman abuse. I am not trying to make any man feel better, I am against viewing people as monsters without any indication of them being monsters. That is hardly unreasonable.

No one is trying to silence you; this isn't the thread for you to be point scoring.

What on earth are you talking about?

Pornography is causing a massive increase of sexual assaults in schools. It is driving a terrifying attitude towards women amongst boys. They are desentisised to the most unthinkable acts of violence by the horrific stuff that is freely available on mainstream sites that they can access on their phones. Our teenage girls are paying a terrible price.

I’m a secondary teacher. I see what’s going on. I’ve been in safeguarding training recently that would break your heart into pieces.

I started teaching eleven years ago. If you came across a word like ‘penetrate’ in a text, there would be a ripple of sniggers around the room. Now that snigger comes if you use the words ‘choke’, ‘destroy’ or ‘ruin’. How the hell have those become sexual words? What does that snippet show you about what teenagers believe sex to be?

The sexual aggression that teenage girls are expecting is a scandal and a disgrace. Anyone defending pornography doesn’t have a fucking clue.

I'm certainly not defending porn

But you have to know about it to look for it.

Most kids get phones around what? Yr 5/6

The comments, the silliness around nudity, the name calling and the general disrespect for girls comes before rhen!

I'm saying they are well on their way before porn and computer games which is why it's a mistake to just blame internet access .

90% of y6 boys have seen pornography and some of their fucking idiot parents let their 6 year olds and upwards play games like gta. There’s literally no need when there are more age appropriate games and media to consume than a child could ever consume in a lifetime.

No one wants to believe a 12 year could repeatedly rape a 6 year old so they focus on why he’s nice and not why he chose to do a terrible wicked thing to a defenceless little girl.

Can’t believe we get namalt and the only rapists are the ones that have seen a day in court on the feminist forum but there you do. The need to defend ridiculous thinking is obviously very great.

I despair of our society tbh. It’s end days seem to be washed in a hue of terrifying violent abuse, filmed and watched for a bit of fun and games made where you can rape characters for a laugh and it’s seen as a perfectly harmless pastime. What a time to be alive.