2019 Canada Winter Games will allow athletes to compete as whichever gender they identify as.

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No requirement for testing or medical intervention.

This will work out really well for women competitors-any Canadians on here? Any resistance?

Yes that makes sense.

They appear to have this holier than thou attitude. Seem to want to make themselves a world 'leader' and they've clocked that this is a fairly cheap and easy way to do this given the current zeitgeist.

I think this is a good thing. Will bring the issue out in the open surely

Let's hope so yes.

I'm so annoyed that I just went blindly along with "liberal feminism" for so long. We have a lot to answer for. Glad the fog has lifted.

Maybe the way around the nonsense in Sport is for women to setup natal women only competitions.
I know thats a tonne easier said than done but if women refuse to complete against male bodied people then that ends the unisex female competition.

Ontario is scary. Their school curriculum includes teaching 7 year olds 7 genders.
Male
Female
TransMale
Trandfemale
Transsexual
Two-spirited
Inter-sexed

Uh....since when is 'inter-sexed' a discrete 'gender' rather than a name for a variety of disparate DSD conditions .

This is madness - I can only hope this peak transes most of Canada

Canada like Scotland

Woke woke best wokey in the world. Yahoo

Yet no ordinary people inScotland or no doubt Canada want the woke stuffs

Ontario is scary. Their school curriculum includes teaching 7 year olds 7 genders.
Male
Female
TransMale
Trandfemale
Transsexual
Two-spirited
Inter-sexed

I haven’t been paying much attention lately but I think this was recently put on hold along with the rest of the sex ed program while the conservatives review it. I don’t know if it’s since been reinstated as there was a lot of protest when it was suspended, but I’m hopeful they’ll keep it out of whatever sex ed program they do introduce.

I’m in Ontario and have a young child. I’ve been seriously considering home schooling him if this nonsense continues to be peddled as hard as it has been in schools here. Which makes me feel weird and conservative (I’m not usually) but I really do worry about the potential impact on my son if this rubbish is shoved down his throat from a young age, especially with all the way teachers are being encouraged not to tell parents anything when it comes to this stuff.

On topic - I’ll not be surprised if we see a shift of female competitors away from the sports in which they’re almost guaranteed to lose against a trans competitor, toward those where sex doesn’t give an advantage. And then when no women are choosing to compete in those other fields, people will start claiming that women simply aren’t interested in them rather than acknowledge the actual reason why women have stopped bothering.

Today it hit me that the sporting establishment actually wants to do away with women's sports, because otherwise why would they all be pretending that they don't know that there is a different between male and female bodies? There is probably not enough sponsorship for women's sports.

Magpie glad to hear that its been suspended, not just for the children of Ontario but globally.
We call know countries have habits of copying each other, so if one country does something then others follow suit.

I suspect this has gone as far as it has in Canada because Canadians are defining themselves in opposition to the USA, which right now is Trump. Being super pro LGBT will be viewed as being very Canadian, just as free-at-point-of-access healthcare is.

The thing is, lots of ordinary Canadians aren’t going to be down with ending women’s sports at all. The question is how long it will be before the leadership twigs.

Also they need to differentiate themselves from the noisy neighbours.

Old Joke: The plan for Canada was to have French culture, American economics and British manners, but they ended up with American culture, British economics and French manners.

I suspect this has gone as far as it has in Canada because Canadians are defining themselves in opposition to the USA, which right now is Trump
Of course. Makes total sense.

How is judo a winter sport?

Do they do it out in a snowdrift?

The question is how long it will be before the leadership twigs.

The leadership is pushing it. Trudeau is a fully woke misogynistic

Didn’t Trudeau sayhe was a feminist.

All the lols for that Trudeau
Feminist you are not

On topic - I’ll not be surprised if we see a shift of female competitors away from the sports in which they’re almost guaranteed to lose against a trans competitor, toward those where sex doesn’t give an advantage. And then when no women are choosing to compete in those other fields, people will start claiming that women simply aren’t interested in them rather than acknowledge the actual reason why women have stopped bothering.

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Look up "Dick Kerr Ladies" for a historical example of this in action. During the first world war (when all the fit young men were at the front fighting) women's football became a major spectator sport. Into the early 1920s it was drawing crowds into the tens of thousands. On one occasion Dick Kerr Ladies filled Everton's Goodison Park ground to capacity (0ver 50,000 I think in those days). In 1921 the FA then banned women from playing on FA affiliated grounds, a ban which stood until 1969. Not surprisingly, women's participation in football plummeted, and it's only in this century that it's started to claw its way back. So yes, same old story (there's a group of misogynist blokes who don't like women playing sport), new way of achieving the same outcome (instead of an outright ban, just pack women's sports with enough men that they can't ever get the chance of a fair competition).

Incidentally, the timescales to undo this level of damage are sobering. The FA ban was lifted in 1969. Last year (2018) was the first year in which all the teams in the English women's top league were fully professional.

(Even when I was playing 15 years ago, I was told that there was still a rule on the books which meant any player found to be playing mixed football could be banned from playing on an FA affiliated team - the chair of my Sunday league team mentioned this to me when I mentioned playing 5-a-side with the blokes from work on a Monday evening, saying "be careful not to say that within hearing of the opposition coaches, because there is this ancient rule still kicking around...")

I regularly queue in traffic beside the blue plaque commemorating the Dick Kerr Ladies, on the side of what was once their workplace. The wiki page is quite interesting too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick,KerrrLadiesF.C.

They also have a sculpture at Preston North End - not being into football myself I've never seen it.

www.pnefc.net/news/2017/december/the-dick-kerr-ladies-monument-unveiled-at-deepdale/

This is a great opportunity for some gender-critical male athletes to all identify as women and demonstrate exactly why this is terrible.

Maybe they're hoping the current sponsorship money in women's sport will be transferred across to the male events, once those are all that is left, because I doubt the public has much appetite for watching trans-dominated sports.

I doubt the public has much appetite for watching trans-dominated sports.

This is so true. No one wants to be drawn into an idiotic, attention-seeking cheat's fantasy of glory and adulation. Just like no one wants to be drawn into a pervs fantasy of 'passing' as a woman. It's flesh-creeping and causes amygdala responses.

Can you imagine the uproar (from men) if the men's category was made 'open'?

Will the men care? Opening it up to trans men I.e women will not make a jot of difference to them. Men will carry on winning.

It's all about the TWs need for validation and power to enter into women's sports.

I mean, how bloody obvious is it to just have a third category if that what has to be done? But no, they have to beat actual women, all part of the narcissistic power game and to feed the fetish.

This is a great opportunity for some gender-critical male athletes to all identify as women and demonstrate exactly why this is terrible.

Yes. If only the men would enter the women's games and then refuse the prize so that it filtered down to the first woman. They could make a great protest.
If only.

Well, I hope they televise it widely. Then surely everyone will see the Emperor's New Clothes (or New Tracksuit) and see how ridiculous the whole thing is.

Instead we have idiot women making a protest to support men taking over their competition. I despair, I really do.