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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/02/2019 12:19

Firing Martina from Allies is working out to be an own goal as more people stand up and speak out on this.

twitter.com/hashtag/TeamNavratilova?src=hash

We know how twitter works Hmm in regards to women speaking out so perhaps this thread could be a place to gather excellent quotes and pictures for people to spread across other platforms and show that Martina's views are shared not by a trickle of support but a tidal wave.

I feel in need of a very nice #TeamNavratilova picture to put on my fbook, any social media gurus around to advise?

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WineGummyBear · 23/02/2019 07:31

Thanks for the sharetoken.

More sense from Janice.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 23/02/2019 07:32

Excellent article by Janice Turner. Bravo to The Times for publishing her columns on this issue.

And die in a flaming horrible painful financial fire, Guardian.

TimeLady · 23/02/2019 07:58

Great article - again - from Janice Flowers

Kettleon80 · 23/02/2019 08:17

Bloody brilliant.

boatyardblues · 23/02/2019 08:19

Great article, though I wish Janice would elaborate on her comments about Ruth Hunt’s resignation.

ChattyLion · 23/02/2019 09:39

Great article- Janice’s writing on this is fantastic.
thanks for the share token.

Also think the Times’ insistence on ‘trans women’ is a subset of women, used without a definition is a bit confusing for anyone not conversant with these arguments, ie a lot of the public and of the newspaper-reading audience.

It can sounds like they mean to refer to a woman who has trans feelings (may want to become a man).

They should clearly state where relevant eg ‘transwomen = male born people who identify themselves as women, who may or may not hold a legal certificate (GRC) certifying their move into a legalised new identity which is female. Others can’t ask to see this certificate, so it is not a public form of ID like s birth certificate, however.) I think a short explanation would be clearer.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/02/2019 10:08

Janice should apply for Ruth Hunt's job. Just for the laugh, like.

ChattyLion · 23/02/2019 10:13

Or just identify as the Chief Exec?

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 23/02/2019 10:23

Q

FingonTheValiant · 23/02/2019 10:26

Or just identify as the Chief Exec? 😂

SpeakUpXXWomen · 23/02/2019 21:46

conatusnews.com/lionesses-lambs-ruth-hunt-katie-ghose-sophie-walker/
The radicalisation of women online is as powerful as the consciousness-raising of earlier generations, but amplified, online and unstoppable.

There's a call to courage for you.

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ToeToToe · 23/02/2019 23:05

Powerful article that.

MsTiggywinkletoyou · 23/02/2019 23:56

For those in need of some optimistic energy, or who just like to fan-girl Ms Navratilova:

NoseringGirl · 24/02/2019 00:11

I think Gabby Logan is onside...

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
ErrolTheDragon · 24/02/2019 00:59

If Jonathan Liew thinks this is an 'issue people can politely agree on', well, he may be right many people discussing his article (comments on it, MN thread...don't know about twitter?) do seem to agree (though not all exactly politely) that he's a sexist idiot who's completely wrong about it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3515608-So-what-if-trans-women-take-over-women-s-sport

www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/caster-semenya-news-gender-martina-navratilova-trans-cas-jonathan-liew-column-a8792861.html#

Iused2BanOptimist · 24/02/2019 06:38

Seems like he listened to that appalling radio 2 piece with the idiot university professor saying sport needs to keep up with the times. Binary is so passé, gender is fluid now. Women can train harder. Yadda yadda

birdsdestiny · 24/02/2019 08:54

Oh Gaby Logan's tweet is brilliant, made me laugh out loud. Maybe it's because I am a woman, indeed.

birdsdestiny · 24/02/2019 08:57

I didn't know this, sorry for my ignorance, but Gaby was a gymnast when she was younger. Amazing all these women who have competed at a high level in sport having the same opinion.

MillytantForceit · 24/02/2019 09:04

Gabby Yorath Logan:

Daughter of a professional footballer, married to an international rugby player. Law degree from Durham. Netball and Athletics 'Blue' for Durham, represented Waled at 1990 Commonwealth games in Gymnastics. Retired age 17 with Sciatica.

Smartieshavetheanswer · 24/02/2019 09:40

Gabby Yorath is incredible. Her voice in this debate would be amazing.

EweSurname · 24/02/2019 22:12

Martina Navratilova
@Martina
Next week I will be writing more on the issues of Transgender women competing in women’s sports etc etc. I want to find solutions, not create problems all the while striving for equality and fairness.
So here is to healthy, respectful discussions!!!

IDoN0tCare · 24/02/2019 22:15

What a brilliant woman. She must be under so much pressure to back down. The support for her is breathtaking and that genie is not going back in the bottle.

sackrifice · 24/02/2019 22:41

I suspect Martina loves:
A - a good battle
B - facts

So in this respect she is probably just gearing up for battle.

EweSurname · 24/02/2019 22:44

I hope so

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
NoseringGirl · 24/02/2019 22:49

The TBLGQIA community?! Did they really just rearrange the letters to put the T first?? At least it's honest I suppose.

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